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South Dublin Workhouse - Admissions form 6 - Disability Codes

mtilley166 — 2019-12-26 23:45:00Z

I am researching the DOWLING family who entered the South Dublin Workhouse on 19-APR-1847 - the attached is "Form 6":
- 2134 - father RICHARD 50 widower,
- 2135 - daughter MARY 13,
- 2136 - son MICHAEL 10
Column 8 is headed "If disabled, the description of disability" and down the list are various entries for others stating "No 1", "No 5", "No 6", "No 7", etc.
The Dowlings are all 3 shown as "No 7".

Does anyone have any explanation for these "DISABILITY CODES", please?
Bearing in mind this is for SOUTH DUBLIN, the Workhouse.org site does not assist in this case!!!

Thanks!

Megan in Sydney, Australia

Re: G. J. Road workhouse, London

JohnWynne62 — 2019-09-19 13:50:34Z

Could be. It fits. Thanks.

Re: G. J. Road workhouse, London

wendyschnur — 2019-09-19 13:46:15Z

I wonder if what you’re reading as a ‘J’ could be an ‘I.’ There was a Gray’s Inn Road (formerly Gray’s Inn Lane) workhouse in Holborn, Middlesex.

Re: G. J. Road workhouse, London

mi2early — 2019-09-19 11:15:34Z

Some clues might be found in http://www.workhouses.org.uk/ or https://www.londonlives.org/static/Workhouses.jsp

G. J. Road workhouse, London

JohnWynne62 — 2019-09-19 07:51:53Z

Can anyone please tell me the full name of the "G. J. Road workhouse" in London and/or Middlesex?
Thanks

Re: Kilmalock work house

vmcneely1 — 2019-09-06 20:54:44Z

Thanks - will do!

Re: Kilmalock work house

eugenemcv — 2019-09-06 12:04:31Z

If she was born after 1864 her birth cert (regardless of workhouse or not) should be on irishgenealogy.ie
I have seen birth entries of people born in workhouses - it was a legal obligation to register all births.

Try Kilmallock reg area first and then neighbouring areas like Croom and Limerick(loads of Mary Sullivans on there, you'll have to narrow the date)

Kilmalock work house

vmcneely1 — 2019-09-03 22:37:27Z

Does anyone know if there are birth records if a child was born in a workhouse? I'm trying to find info on my great grandmother. My dad insists she is from Hospital, Limerick. I've narrowed down some information and she might have been born in this work house. Her name was Mary "Minnie" Sullivan. I believe her father's name was William - says O'Sullivan on her death certificate

Re: Dublin Workhouse

am7251 — 2019-05-28 15:42:01Z

Thank you for that, I will look into that :)

Re: Dublin Workhouse

wendyschnur — 2019-05-28 15:35:15Z

I believe that says Glasson Union. Glasson (also spelled Glassan) is a village in County Westmeath.

Dublin Workhouse

am7251 — 2019-05-28 12:02:12Z

I was wondering if anyone can help....

On a Dublin workhouse record it states previous residence as 'Glasgow Union' I know that they did not reside in Glasgow prior to this. Could any light be shed on the meaning of this?

Re: Giving birth to multiple children in Ampthill Workhouse but no father listed

mi2early — 2019-05-18 21:26:38Z

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/intro/ and the page on the particular workhouse should provide you with some information.

Giving birth to multiple children in Ampthill Workhouse but no father listed

dribsndrabs84 — 2019-05-18 21:06:09Z

Hello

I have an ancestor who resided for years in Ampthill Workhouse (Bedfordshire). During her time there, she gave birth to two or three children between 1879 and 1883. No father is named and the children take her name. Prior to the 1881 census, she lived with her family but spent the rest of her life in the Union Workhouse.

I'm ignorant of social history at this time and workhouses - so my query comes from this lack of understanding.

Would getting pregnant out of wedlock be a cause for a family to send a woman into a union workhouse? Would an unmarried woman such as her commonly become pregnant in a workhouse. Would the father have typically been an inmate or someone in a position of authority? Does anyone have any information about Ampthill Workhouse or know if I can get any records specifically on residents from there?

Re: Understanding a workhouse admission form

65hplane — 2017-05-08 19:08:59Z

Thank you very much for this! I need to learn to look at the other entries on a form like this, not just the person I am interested in, there are clues there.

The pointers you have given are very helpful, and I believe that there are records I can check both online and at the local history centre. For interest, I think the parish was considered Clerkenwell which was where the family lived, not where the workhouse was.

Onwards, the research never ends! Many thanks again

Andrea

Re: Understanding a workhouse admission form

protheroejones — 2017-05-07 23:04:44Z

Workhouses by this period had different diets for different ages, genders, etc. Francisco seems to be on a youth's diet as there is another person of similar age further down the page also on class 3 diet. Most people are on class 2 which was presumably a standard adult diet.

Next meal after admission was supper, so he was admitted during the afternoon.

Religion was Roman Catholic.

The parishes the workhouse served are all abbreviated. The records of the poor law board or other local authority that this workhouse was operated by will list the parishes and hopefully enable you to work out which parish would be charged for his upkeep whilst in the workhouse.

Goldsmith is the surname of the person responsible for his admission. The name occurs in both images you posed and many times in one of them. Mr.Goldsmith's official title and hence role in the admission would hopefully be explained by examining other records of the relevant poor law board or other local authority.

I can't hazard a guess at the annotation 2y in the final column it occurs against a number of people.

The annotation S in the final column is for single i.e. unmarried. The clue to this was that some of the older admissions are annotated W for widowed.

The administrative records of the workhouse may help with your queries but these may not have been digitised and the originals would have to be examined in whichever local archive holds them.

Good luck with your research!

Re: Understanding a workhouse admission form

mi2early — 2017-04-30 14:47:10Z

Without any names, dates, or locations it may be difficult to help. If your ancestor lived in the UK, this site might hold some clues for you: http://www.workhouses.org.uk/

Re: Understanding a workhouse admission form

65hplane — 2017-04-29 18:09:52Z

OK, the entry is on the 1895 Workhouse Admission form for the City Road Workhouse, in Holborn. My ancestor is Francisco Dellino. He was born in 1881, and in the column 'By whose order' it reads 'Insane' Goldsmith?. He was inside from March 18th to April 3rd, when he was discharged 'To Father'. His religion is listed as RC, and his class for diet is 3? His parish is listed as C? and Goldsmith is noted again. In the column 'If born in the house, name of parent' it reads 27 S? The final column is his address, which is correct, 35 Warner St.

If anyone has any ideas on the points where I have a ? that would be great!!

Many thanks

Re: Understanding a workhouse admission form

mi2early — 2017-04-28 12:22:37Z

Yes, please always add the details to the subject line and message field so no one has to jump through hoops to help.

Re: Understanding a workhouse admission form

65hplane — 2017-04-27 20:10:39Z

Thanks for this, I will have a look at the website.

Maybe the attachments didn't come through, should I put the details in a message on this thread?

Thanks for the tip though!

Andrea

Understanding a workhouse admission form

65hplane — 2017-04-26 22:47:00Z

Hi

Please see attached record which I have only just come across for an ancestor. So many questions!

What does 'By whose Order' mean, who had him committed? If so, what or who is Goldsmith? And on discharge 'By whose order' does 'To father' mean he was released to his father or did his father request his release?

On the second document, what is a diet class? and what do all the letters and numbers mean for parish and after date of order of admission?

Many thanks for any help or pointers to where I might find the answers!!

Andrea