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Re: All ancestors appear as private in Thrulines

cc4430 — 2019-12-23 18:49:38Z

Is anyone a collaborator or manager of your results?
If yes, did you check your test's settings to see which tree is linked to your results?

All ancestors appear as private in Thrulines

NigelECEvans — 2019-12-23 10:34:27Z

My tree is public but in Thrulines when I click on a potential ancestor all my ancestors are marked as private with no names shown.
In my wife's Thrulines her ancestors are all named.
Also my Thrulines only shows potential ancestors and no names of actual ancestors appear whereas they do in my wife's Thrulines.
Any guidance wouldbe greatly received.

Re: Fathers Fathers Thrulines

helome — 2019-12-18 16:11:02Z

I had the same problem with my mother’s line. Zero. When I made a DNA tree I transferred the info from her tree into my DNA tree. The transfer did not show sufficient proof of her relationship to me. I had to go in and update 2 or 3 generations in my DNA tree before the ThruLines to showed up.

Re: If you have multiple trees, can you reassign Thrulines to different trees?

EllieBenpoe — 2019-12-14 22:26:03Z

“.... Although I have my DNA test linked to my family tree, the Thrulines are showing up with DNA matches with relatives from her tree that are not in mine. If those people are not in my tree, why are they appearing in the Thrulines connections? No connections are showing up for my ancestors who are in my tree that we don't have in common even though there are DNA matches.....”

Are you sure you are linked to the proper tree and the proper person in the tree. If you have the correct tree it's acting like you've linked to your half-sister instead of yourself.

Re: If you have multiple trees, can you reassign Thrulines to different trees?

EllieBenpoe — 2019-12-14 22:15:02Z

BED4343, you may be seeing “potential ancestors” that Ancestry is suggesting could be yours as well because Ancestry is seeing the relationship between you and your half-sister. You can stop seeing these by changing the selection under the Filters option. The system won't save the setting, however, so the next time you open ThruLines again you'll see them all again.

Edited. The Filters option is on the top left when you open the ThruLines page.

Re: If you have multiple trees, can you reassign Thrulines to different trees?

BED4343 — 2019-12-14 21:49:44Z

I understand that is the way it is supposed to work, but mine doesn't seem to be pulling from the correct tree. I have different trees for my half sister and myself. There are some common relatives, so there are some of the same people in both trees, including the two of us. Although I have my DNA test linked to my family tree, the Thrulines are showing up with DNA matches with relatives from her tree that are not in mine. If those people are not in my tree, why are they appearing in the Thrulines connections? No connections are showing up for my ancestors who are in my tree that we don't have in common even though there are DNA matches.

Re: ThruLines stopped...

EllieBenpoe — 2019-12-13 01:27:39Z

ThruLines stop at the 5th great grandparent level for everyone. Is that where yours are ending or is it before that generation?

ThruLines stopped...

tonyjag19 — 2019-12-13 00:17:09Z

As I build my tree and follow ThruLines indicators (icon) I've noticed that it can stop after a particular generation even though the predecessor relation is biological. Have I made an error and tied the incorrect relative? it looks correct...

Re: Fathers Fathers Thrulines

booterfancy — 2019-11-27 00:38:31Z

Thanks for the insight. It just seemed odd, but I'll keep on it.
Thanks again!

New matches im Thrulines

sterrys193 — 2019-11-24 04:00:56Z

My Thrulines indicate that there are changes. The changes one have a tag "updated" But the matches inside all look the same, none are marked any differently. So how to find the changes ? Additions or subtractions ? And only 9 changes in a hundred Thrulines in all these months ?
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Re: Fathers Fathers Thrulines

cc4430 — 2019-11-24 00:23:14Z

ThruLines are based on family trees.
Zero matches mean no connections were found between the tree linked to your DNA results and the trees linked to the DNA results of your matches.

If you have any unknown close (3rd cousins or closer) matches, you can look at their tree (if available) and the trees of any shared matches to see if there are any common ancestors among them.

Unknown close matches can be due to a non-paternity event in your tree or in their tree.

Re: Grandfather disappeared on thrulines - ditto

GaryRRebholz — 2019-11-23 21:17:04Z

I have the same problem, but it's with 2 great-great-grandfathers that don't show at all on Thrulines, but heir wives do. I checked the "relationship" setting for "biological" and everything looks as it should.

Fathers Fathers Thrulines

booterfancy — 2019-11-22 21:28:04Z

I have ZERO thruline matches for my grandfather (fathers father), or ANY of that line. When I scroll down through the generations, all persons on this line (male & female) show zero. I do have many for my grandmother (fathers mother), but ZERO for his father or grandparents etc.
I am female, so will DNA not show up for his line?
OR is there a surprise waiting for me through the odd unknown connections that are listed but I haven't been able to connect yet?
Thanks for any insights.

Theresa

Re: If you have multiple trees, can you reassign Thrulines to different trees?

deeflint01 — 2019-11-22 18:58:49Z

Thrulines are always for the tree to which you have your DNA linked. So if you have Thrulines for the wrong tree, then you also have your DNA linked to the wrong tree. Go to your DNA page, click settings and then link the DNA to the correct tree. It may take a few days to update.

If you have multiple trees, can you reassign Thrulines to different trees?

JamesCooperRose — 2019-11-22 15:56:42Z

If you have multiple trees, can you reassign Thrulines to different trees? I set my Thrulines to the wrong tree; how do I fix it? Thank you.

Re: Grandfather disappeared on thrulines

history_pov — 2019-11-13 18:37:10Z

Settings can cause a problem even when they didn't previously. This is a dynamic system, not a static one.

1) Check the parental relationships to ensure that they say, biological. If at any point they 'flipped' to unknown, ThruLines won't work. Use this article as a guide. https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Fixing-Relationships-...

2) Use the Support Chat so someone can check your settings.

Re: How confident can I be that this is my birth dad based on numerous thrulines on his tree?

history_pov — 2019-11-13 18:32:33Z

Tips if you are comparing scenarios

1) A DNA kit can only be linked to one tree. If you have separate trees, the DNA isn't connecting to all of them, only the one you selected to link it to.

2) The relationship settings must be correct. If a possible parent is set to 'unknown' relationship, the analysis may not work. support.ancestry.com/s/article/Fixing-Relationships-in-Trees

3) Contact Support to check your settings.

Re: Thrulines

history_pov — 2019-11-13 18:25:24Z

ThruLines goes back further if there is sufficient data and if the relationships are linked correctly.

1) Check the parental relationships to ensure that they say, biological. If at any point they 'flipped' to unknown, ThruLines won't work. Use this article as a guide.
support.ancestry.com/s/article/Fixing-Relationships-in-Trees

2) Use the Support Chat so someone can check your settings.

Re: Looking to Collaborate - ThruLines Experiments

rtallen — 2019-09-18 14:06:24Z

I am trying to do this very thing. It has been somewhat helpful so far but frustrating as well. My e-mail is rick1547@gmail.com if you want to write me.

Rejecting a Thruline suggestion

Fencible007 — 2019-09-05 22:16:53Z

How do I reject a Thruline suggestion that is definately incorrect.

Re: Looking to Collaborate - ThruLines Experiments

suzannelejeune — 2019-09-19 16:01:15Z

Me too! I have created about 10 mirror trees for this sole purpose. Documented my results and now trying to figure out the next steps. Email me at suzanne.lejeune@sympatico.ca

Thanks
Suzanne

ThruLines

Grams68 — 2019-10-08 15:47:16Z

Hi everyone. I am wondering if anyone has a clue has to how to remove names from ThruLines. Initially there were 6 people who connected my 2x great grandfather to a family that were Dutch but living in Guyana in the mid 1700s to early 1800s. Our family have been told we are connected but there is ZERO PROOF. Part of the problem is My 2x gr grandfather did not know his parents names as he was born in Guyana in 1829 and shipped to England in 1835 supposedly for his education which he never received. Family story is the money was stolen by the designated guardian! Likely a story but one keeps it on the mind. That said when he married his first wife in 1857 he used Richard as father's name then his wife died shortly after the birth of their 2nd son Thomas who was only about 5 when his mother died he remarried, put Thomas down as his father!!! He went on to have nearly a dozen more children, but now people are using Thomas as his father's name and it is NOT. If indeed he is connected to the family that is on ThruLines his father's name would never be Thomas as they continued the Dutch male names in this line. I wrote to all of them several times and 4 were kind enough to delete the name Thomas as father and remove the remaining names, but TWO have not even replied. Therefore I have 2 generations of this Dutch family as my 4th and 5th grandparents and they are not (at this point in time) and it is most annoying. Could Ancestry not allow us the option to remove these people?? Sorry had to vent a bit about this. Cheers, Mrs. Davies.

Re: thru lines has stopped

Noreenmarian — 2019-11-08 08:39:56Z

This has also happened to me and when I rang I was told that this is not a known problem. Following a phone call a few days later to remind them that they had not responded to me, I have now got an email to tell me to fill in all names and dates of birth and death. I have not removed any from when it worked before so I don't see why (if, as they tell me they have not made any changes to their system) this should work now. They also inform me that I have to wait about 3 days before I will be able to see if this works. They also helpfully included a help line phone number which is not valid for my area.

Re: Duplicating Profiles when confirming potential ancestors

LynnDonnetteSpencer — 2019-10-17 15:44:31Z

i just lost all my Thrulines last night! I had been really building my tree. I loved how every time I confirmed a potential Mother or Father I would get a message on the screen that read "Good Job"! Boy was I proud of my budding and flourishing
branches. I happened to notice at some point that I had (and still have until I fix them all) lots of duplicates. I thought it was because I was switching from laptop to my iPhone sometimes. First thing I did was make my tree private because I was somewhat embarrassed. I appreciate you sharing your experience. Knowledge is power.

Looking to Collaborate - ThruLines Experiments

mjacklin183 — 2019-08-19 21:57:53Z

I am interested in corresponding with users who are trying to break through brick walls by creating and validating (or not) hypothetical ancestors using ThruLines experiments.

Re: Relationships

deeflint01 — 2019-07-30 15:10:05Z

It's ThruLines not Truelines. Now are all three brothers in your tree and all the links correct down to you?

If all lines are correct, go to the ThruLines page that lists all ancestors and they should be on that page. You would then check each brother independently. I have checked this with my husband's tree. However, I am not sure that would happen if you clicked on the brothers' father and looked at that ThruLine.

Re: all my thrulines

deeflint01 — 2019-09-21 14:51:36Z

On the tree page, on the left, where you select tree, pedigree or zoom will be an icon at the bottom of this set. Click it and you can set the thruline icons to show.

Thrulines

donnyo129 — 2019-07-22 19:01:44Z

Does anyone know why Thrulines only goes back to the 5th generation and if there are plans for it to go back further? Thankfully my grandmother has taken her DNA which as allowed me to go back 2 generations more than if it was just me.

Duplicating Profiles when confirming potential ancestors

gooder — 2019-10-12 07:21:30Z

Hello - I am trying to work out how to use Thrulines - when I confirm a potential ancestor it creates a duplicate profile. However, when I merge the 2 duplicate profiles it removes the confirmation of the ancestor in thrulines. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks :)

Re: Thrulines not working for both sides of family

riggskindred — 2019-09-25 22:43:52Z

Same thing happened to me. My Mother and her side of the family disappeared from Thrulines. When I went to my profile it showed my Father as Biological parent and my Mother (who was named) as Unknown. When I went to her profile and edit relationships as Valerie suggested I was listed as Unknown but my siblings were still Biological. I changed me to Biological and it instantly connected her back into Thrulines.

Re: Thrulines not working for both sides of family

valerietorgerson — 2019-10-31 14:27:21Z

Not sure how it happened. I'd guess there was an update and something went haywire. It was frustrating to try to figure out. I called support, but they couldn't help. I'm glad you got yours fixed!

Thrulines not working for both sides of family

valerietorgerson — 2019-08-17 21:54:42Z

Thrulines are only working on my father's side of the family. My DNA test is linked to my tree, but for some reason my mother's ancestors are not showing up on my Thrulines. Is anyone else having issues with Thrulines?

Update: somehow my mother's relationship to me got changed. I fixed it by going to her profile, choosing edit, then edit relationship, and choosing biological on the pull down menu. After waiting 24 hours for the Thrulines update, her ancestors are now back on Thrulines.

Re: Thrulines not working for both sides of family

valerietorgerson — 2019-08-18 14:40:34Z

The only "relationship" I changed was my mother's to me. It updated everyone else automatically. I hope this works for you!

all my thrulines

CrystalConnieWolfer — 2019-09-21 04:02:11Z

i had thruline icons in my tree but for some reason they are gone now

Re: Thrulines

ndh_2 — 2019-07-30 01:34:28Z

Maybe because it isn't accurate much farther back? I found this "So, past about 5 generations, it's not that we get tinier and tinier chunks of DNA from ancestors at each subsequent generation, it's that we either do or don't get the chunk(s) our parent has for a particular ancestor. At about the 6th generation back, we get to a situation where some ancestors are no longer in our DNA at all in detectable amounts. Simulations show that our DNA has room to represent about 128-256 ancestors at any particular generation. So, you could have a detectable block of DNA from an ancestor 10 generations back, but you have detectable blocks of DNA from only about 10% of those 10th generation ancestors." https://genealogy.stackexchange.com/questions/12701/how-many... and there's a good chart here about how much DNA you might share with various relatives: https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/autosomal-ancestry/unive...

Re: Thrulines not working for both sides of family

mlmac57 — 2019-08-18 09:45:25Z

Yes, this has also happened to me. I wrote to support and didn't get a reply. I will try your suggestion above and give that a go. Will it do all that's in her family or will I have to go into all of her ancestors?

Re: Thrulines not working for both sides of family

mlmac57 — 2019-08-18 21:29:28Z

Yes, thanks it did, I looked into a couple of others and all looked well. How did it happen though because I've never been in there before. Must have been an update issue perhaps. Thank you so much for your help! Happy searching!

Re: Thrulines not working for both sides of family

ancestrydna142132 — 2019-09-05 02:33:21Z

Thanks for this, my mum was set to Unknown also.

Thrulines

sandrahappyfriday — 2019-10-29 07:45:24Z

Hello I am new to Ancestry and I see my thrulines have never changed since the start I still do not have any maternal and my paternal have stayed at the same amount for days and days now and I have been adding to my tree all the time. My tree is linked to my dna, I would appreciate any help as maybe I am doing something wrong. Thanks.

Re: Thrulines not working for both sides of family

rachnandy72 — 2019-10-31 02:48:49Z

I had exactly the same problem. I had to edit the relationship and change it from "Unknown" to "Biological" for my own profile and for both of my parents. How can this have happened?

Grandfather disappeared on thrulines

miz_scarlettphd — 2019-08-30 15:44:52Z

Anyone else have this problem? Is it a glitch or do I need to test someone else in my family?

Re: Duplicating Profiles when confirming potential ancestors

thecraftinista — 2019-10-16 01:33:10Z

I was having the same issue. I eventually deleted my entire tree because entire branches were not being seen within the ThruLines....After I rebuilt a good chunk of it...absolutely nothing shows up in the ThruLines any longer, just a page telling me to reload the page or come back later. I've contacted support about six times but all they keep doing is sending me various weblinks telling me to clear my cookies or try another browser.

How confident can I be that this is my birth dad based on numerous thrulines on his tree?

ilovesnowboarding67 — 2019-11-05 09:27:42Z

(Disclaimer: I know nothing is definitive through Ancestry.com. It is merely curiosity and interest as I get older and start to wonder about my ancestry)

I know my birth mom, and she knows my father was one of two men. I have found them both on Ancestry (definitely 100% the correct men), and one of them has "thrulines" all the way throughout their side of the tree, just like my birth mom's tree has. The other man has no thrulines at all, though I made his after the other man's.

I also made a family tree for my adoptive family (this one was made years before my birth "parent's"), and there is not a single thruline on the entire tree. This makes me think that the man with the thrulines is more likely to be my father...is that correct? I know it's not "truelines," but my question is how likely is it that a man who has 50/50 odds of being my father would be the one with all of the thrulines? Or is it possible that Ancestry just decided that that man was my "father" because I spent more time on his tree than any of the others?

I just find the "thrulines" algorithm to be confusing. Are they or are they not based on DNA matches at least at SOME point? Or can they all be based on guesses alone? My birth mom does NOT have my possible birth father anywhere in her personal tree either, so I know any guesses would not be based on her tree. The part I get hung up on is when I click on any DNA matches related to my birth mom, I can actually see people in their trees that match with mine. I have yet to find a person who matches anything on my "dad's" side. Though, I have only gotten through the first few pages...

thru lines has stopped

Jenkin — 2019-10-31 23:53:58Z

Once again, Thru lines is telling me to 'fill in ' as much as possible...this has happened before and is a pain. So, what really is the answer to getting it back? I have been filling in detail back to the 13th century!!

Re: Grandfather disappeared on thrulines

JimLBanks — 2019-09-04 21:30:32Z

It sounds like the same thing that is happening to a lot of people. Someone from your tree that use to be on your thru lines page is no longer there, but instead is just the blank figure of a man or woman marked "Private." If that is the case, it was probably caused by someone recently taking a DNA test and linking it to a private tree that contains the disappearing person. All it takes is one person with a private tree to do this. I have brought it to the attention of Ancestry and they said they would look into it. If this is not fixed, the usefulness of thru lines will erode over time as more people link private trees. If people want their trees to be private, fine but that shouldn't spoil the usefulness of thru line for the rest of us.

Re: Relationships

history_pov — 2019-11-13 18:21:56Z

ThruLines is only for the direct line, not siblings. You can add siblings to the tree, but it won't show on ThruLines.

Re: all my thrulines * TIPS *

history_pov — 2019-11-13 18:17:34Z

Two tips for restoring ThruLines, Nov 2019.

Settings can cause a problem even when they didn't previously. This is a dynamic system, not a static one.

1) Check the parental relationships to ensure that they say, biological. If at any point they 'flipped' to unknown, ThruLines won't work. Use this article as a guide.
support.ancestry.com/s/article/Fixing-Relationships-in-Trees

2) Use the Support Chat so someone can check your settings.

Re: Thrulines * TIPS *

history_pov — 2019-11-13 18:01:46Z

Two tips for restoring ThruLines, Nov 2019.

Settings can cause a problem even when they didn't previously. This is a dynamic system, not a static one.

1) Check the parental relationships to ensure that they say, biological. If at any point they 'flipped' to unknown or were set up wrong, ThruLines won't work. Use this article as a guide. support.ancestry.com/s/article/Fixing-Relationships-in-Trees

2) Use the Support Chat so someone can check your settings.

Re: Thrulines not working for both sides of family * TIPS *

history_pov — 2019-11-13 17:59:30Z

Two tips for restoring ThruLines, Nov 2019.

Settings can cause a problem even when they didn't previously. This is a dynamic system, not a static one.

1) Check the parental relationships to ensure that they say, biological. If at any point they 'flipped' to unknown, ThruLines won't work. Use this article as a guide. support.ancestry.com/s/article/Fixing-Relationships-in-Trees

2) Use the Support Chat so someone can check your settings.

Re: thru lines has stopped * TIPS *

history_pov — 2019-11-13 17:56:53Z

Two tips for restoring ThruLines, Nov 2019.

Settings can cause a problem even when they didn't previously. This is a dynamic system, not a static one.

1) Check the parental relationships to ensure that they say, biological. If at any point they 'flipped' to unknown, ThruLines won't work. Use this article as a guide. support.ancestry.com/s/article/Fixing-Relationships-in-Trees

2) Use the Support Chat so someone can check your settings.