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John Mowery Family Info

a_mowery80 — 2019-05-30 13:39:31Z

I am looking for any Info On John Mowery. I Thnk he was born in Hocking country In Ohio. Or In somewhere in Pa. AS Well if you have any Info on Any of The Mowery Line Before Him

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

jackiekennedy68 — 2018-02-19 15:31:41Z

There is a detailed military time line for William Small Hill (Pvt., Co. L., 3rd Tenn. Vol. Union Calvary, POW, and Sultana Survivor) here:
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/13821429/pe...

It should work for any soldier who served in 3rd Tennessee Union Cavalry.

Re: Help finding marriage certificate... need expert?

a_lamothe98 — 2018-01-02 21:56:57Z

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Help finding marriage certificate... need expert?

alamothe11 — 2018-01-02 15:28:36Z

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Re: Nathan Wintringer

sandyduffy1 — 2017-07-01 15:18:07Z

I realize this is 13 years after your inquiry, but in case you are still wondering, Nathan Wintringer's family arrived from Germany in the early 1800's, so any connection would have to be before that.

Re: CHARLES STOUT / SULTANA EXPLOSION / 27 APR 1865

Raona_A — 2016-11-12 18:54:29Z

His Mother, Eliza, filed for a pension on 18 Sep 1865 in Northampton, Summit County, Ohio. It is available on Fold 3.com

It says that the parents of Charles Stout were George Stout and Eliza Woolford who were married on 13 Jan 1842 in Portage County, Ohio. It also states that George Stout died on 30 Mar 1854.

Re: Record of Tang Martin, Sultana Survivor

Raona_A — 2016-11-12 18:25:27Z

There was a Jeremiah Singer on the Sultana. Unfortunately he did not survive.

Re: John Winkelman

Raona_A — 2016-11-12 15:14:00Z

The pension index card at Fold 3 indicates that he died 7 Dec 1913 at Elma, Ontario, Canada.
The Pension index card on Ancestry.com indicates that his widow's name was Lovina, and that she filed for a pension 3 years after he died. Ohio marriage records show a Lovina Winkelman married a Charles Pezel in Summit county, Ohio in April of 1880.

Pension application # is 596549. Pension certification # is 451398. The widow application # is 1081693. I would write for the pension records, if I were you.

Raona

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

J0Perry — 2016-01-16 22:15:14Z

I had 3 on the boat. 2 survived one didn't. Their names were Caleb and John Rule and Josiah Varnell. Thanks so much!

Re: New Book on Sultana

TScott407 — 2015-09-27 14:41:47Z

Dear Gene

I happen to check your message . Have you by chance have finish your book. My 2nd Great Grandfather Charles F Bryant was on the Sultana and he did survied . Also I have pictures where he buried in Indiana.

Sincerley , Tama

150th Anniversary

Raona_A — 2015-02-23 15:00:19Z

A 3 day commemoration of the Sultana is being held April 23-25 in Marion, Arkansas. Details are available at: http://www.sultana150.org

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

etendu — 2014-12-04 21:03:55Z

Sylvian,
Excellent! Thank you for this. Knowing he was for certain at Andersonville Prison is priceless. Max

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

etendu — 2014-12-04 20:35:38Z

The only concrete information I have on my uncle, Nelson M Sammis, is the document listing him at Allen County Public Library - gives Civil War info
http://www.fold3.com/image/293415602/

Sine other searches found the following, but I think I'm providing too much.
Thank you for caring, Max

http://www.fold3.com/s.php#query=Nelson+M+Sammis&t=797
http://www.fold3.com/s.php#query=Nelson+M+Sammis&t=40,82...
Fold 3 search: Nelson M Civil War svc index CT, census 1860 b 1832-1842, at
http://www.fold3.com/search/#s_given_name=nelson&s_surna...
Nelson M Civil War pension Confed TN at above link

Sultana Disaster document listing Nelson M, giving Regiment 8 Conn
http://www.fold3.com/image/293415602/

Memorial Page at
http://www.fold3.com/search/#s_given_name=nelson&s_surna...
1860 census Fairfield Cty CT ( I don't have ancestry membership) at
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&...-

U.S., Confederate Soldiers Compiled Service Records, 1861-1865 MerlinCollections View Image Name: Nelson M Sammis
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&...

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

sylviam_clemons — 2014-12-04 13:56:39Z

He is listed on Andersonville Prison website as follows:
http://www.civilwarprisoners.com/searchresults.php?fname=&am...

Name: SAMMIS, NELSON M.
Alternate spelling of last name:
Year born:
Rank: PRIVATE
Company: D
Arm: Infantry
Regiment number: 8th Connecticut Infantry
Date captured: 5/7/1864
Location captured: Wathall Junction, Virginia
Fate:
Enlisted in 10th Tennessee Infantry (CSA). Recaptured by U.S. Troops March 21, 1865. Released from confinement July 8, 1865.

Normally it would say here that he survived the sultana.

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

sylviam_clemons — 2014-12-04 13:28:24Z

Max, I do not have him listed on any of my lists as being on the Sultana. Do you have any documents or family records or even story of what happened to him so I can get him listed? I will look into it from all the sources that I possibly can. Was he injured on the Sultana as his release date is the latest I have seen from anyone's on the Sultana? Any information you can provide will help in my research.

I look forward to hearing back from you.
Sylvia Clemons

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

etendu — 2014-12-04 06:55:02Z

Nelson M Sammis my gr gr uncle, survived the Sultana Disaster. Do you have any information on him?

He is on the rolls here http://www.fold3.com/image/293415602/.
Document info as follows:
Sammis Nelson M, Reg 8 Conn, Captured near Petersburg VA May 7/64.
Released Jul 8/65, He was re-captured Mar 21/65 + forwarded to Hart Island NY Harbor, Apr 23/65 confined at Hart Island NY See record of Hart,
claiming to be a union soldier who enlisted in 10(7?) Tenn Infantry rebel army - see roll.

Nelson was buried on old family propertu along with his father + mother, but it appears the graves may have been covered over. The company doing this, Kensett, http://www.darientimes.com/9660/kensett-at-hoyt-and-wakemore... and here http://www.builderonline.com/land/planning/a-luxury-developm...

Nelson deserves a marker for his Civil War service, and his survival of the Sultana.

A cousin is checking into what can be done, but it's very frustrating.

Any idea or knowledge would be appreciated.

Sincerely,
Max Zarges

Re: Saul Lightcap

11thOVC — 2014-11-02 15:06:09Z

There was a Solomon Lightcap in Company K, 120th Ohio Infantry. He was on the City Belle when it was sunk on the Red river in Louisiana.The 120th OVI lists no further record but he was erroneously then listed as transferred to the 114th OVI and later 48th Bn OVI. If there was no further record in the 120th OVI they were assumed to be alive when the 120th OVI was disbanded and the names were automatically transferred to the next unit. The City Belle was sunk 3 May 1864 and the 120th OVI was disbanded 27 Nov 1864. Solomon Lightcap was from Holmes County, Ohio and was the son of James Jacob and Elizabeth (Gilbert) Lightcap. No pension was ever filed.

Saul Lightcap

margaret_47 — 2014-10-31 18:28:29Z

Any information on Saul Lightcap Who died on the Sultana?

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

sherve23 — 2011-10-08 19:05:11Z

Not sure if any list is complete. Here is a relative of mine that per the NA Pension record of my GGG Grandmother should be on your list. I did not find him listed in another book that I am reading.

Moses SMITH Jr.
Enlistment Date: 14 October 1864
Side Served: Union
State Served: Kentucky
Service Record: Enlisted as a Private on 15 October 1864 in Lexington, KY, Age 18.
Enlisted in Company K, 4th Infantry Regiment Kentucky on 26 October 1864 in Louisville, KY.
Detailed on 01 February 1865 at Hospital, Waterloo, AL (Detailed as nurse)
Died 27 April 1865, drowned on the Steamer Sultana, Age 19.

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

Cleveland14c — 2011-10-14 22:41:07Z

could you please check your List for Gilford and Isaac Morrison.(Brothers) From What I understand Isaac was never accounted for and Gilford died and he is buried at Memphis National Cemetery. (I have a photo of his grave marker)I read once that gulford was found alive and transported to a hospital and later died.. Any Clues would be appreciated. I also have a photo of gulfords Burial Site, and diffrent enlistment papers and pensions
Thank You Lorressa Ensley
lensley@hughes.net

Re: Gulford and Isaac Morrison

Cleveland14c — 2011-10-14 03:34:56Z

I also Have enlistment papers and pension copies for this family, Stories, and a photo of Gulford and Isaac.
Lorressa
lensley@hughes.net

Gulford and Isaac Morrison

Cleveland14c — 2011-10-14 03:32:37Z

Re: Alonzo K. Smith - Company K, 22nd Infantry, MI

Scobell1 — 2010-11-24 07:39:55Z

Another thing to try is to see if a Worth Twp newspaper obit was done up on Alonzo. Just a thought.

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

LSchulte825 — 2012-04-15 08:43:04Z

Mark:

Can you check for a Valentine Flaherty? He was in the 6th KY Calvary, Company K and a survivor of Andersonville. I've always wondered if he was aboard the Sultana.

Thanks,

Laura
(LSchulte@insightbb.com0

comments regarding this statement

phebe74 — 2012-12-16 20:59:41Z

The following statement appeated in the Chattanooga on line paper. It was written by Chuck Hamilton. I have never heard anything about this. Does anyone out there know any further details. I have written to ChucK Hamilton and asked his source. Phebe Morgan phebem@comcast.net

On 27 April 1865, Confederate Secret Service operative Robert Louden used a coal torpedo (a bomb made to look like a lump of coal) to sink the SS Sultana on the Mississippi River near Memphis, Tennessee, killing 1600-1800 of its 2400 passengers, most of them former POW’s from the Union Army. It remains the biggest maritime disaster in U.S. history and arguably the largest terrorist attack on U.S. soil prior to 9/11/2001.

sultana deaths

phebe74 — 2012-04-15 13:30:10Z

With all the goings on regarding the Titanic, why is there never a word about the 1,700 (est.) deaths on the Sultana?

William Davis Co G, 5th TN from Hamilton Co TN died, he could not swim.

Re: Alonzo K. Smith - Company K, 22nd Infantry, MI

ncs1151 — 2010-11-24 16:30:22Z

Hello!

I have some information which may be of help.

An excellent source to locate soldiers who were on the Sultana and their fate is the Appendix of the book Disaster on the Mississippi: The Sultana Explosion, April 27, 1865 by Gene Salecker (1996).

Checking the Mich. troops, I find one Alonzo Smith, 22nd Mich. Inf., Co. K, Sgt., who died.

From reading Salecker's book and an earlier one in 1992 by Jerry Potter called Sultana Tragedy (1992) I know that hundreds of bodies were never recovered from the Miss. River. Scores more washed up on shore down river but had no identification.

Lastly, out of the 800 initial survivors from being pulled out of the river, 300 died in Memphis hospitals so their identity was known. These were first buried in a local cemetery but later transferred to the National Cemetery in Memphis. However, many names were lost during the transfer when the names chalked on the caskets were washed off during a rainstorm during the transport process.

From this information, I would think the third Alonzo in your list is your man. He could have died on the Sultana with no record of his burial since 1) his body was never recovered 2) body recovered with no identity 3) survived the initial disaster but later died in a Memphis hospital but was one of those who names was washed off the casket during the rain storm.

The Sultana Association will hold its 23rd reunion in Mansfield, Ohio, April 23rd and 24th, 2011. Contact me if you would like more information.

Norman Shaw, Founder, Association of Sultana Descendants and Friends

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

ncs1151 — 2013-01-08 14:13:09Z

The book "Disaster on the Mississippi" by Gene Salecker (1996) has a wonderful list of all passengers on the ill-fated Sultana that he verified himself. The troops are divided by state, regiment and name.

For the 95th Ohio, there's a "Van Horn, Burriss" Private, Co. F, who survived and was sent to Soldier's Hospital in Memphis. I would say this is most likely your ancestor, James.

The other brother, Authur, died in April 1864 so it was impossible that he was on the Sultana since it exploded on April 27, 1865.

Norman Shaw, Founder, The Sultana Association, Knoxville, TN shawclan4@bellsouth.net

Re: New Book on Sultana

Raona_A — 2014-07-16 04:39:04Z

I was wondering how the new book is progressing. I thought that perhaps you might have it ready for the 150th anniversary next year.

Re: ATTENTION gpouder !!!!!!

gpouder — 2014-04-17 18:46:24Z

Mark- Andrew and I have a mutual ancestor, Leonard Pouder, born at sea in 1730, settled in Maryland. I corresponded with the Ohio branch of our family (all dead now) and have Andrew's line of descent from Leonard. The Ohio Pouders went to Cincinnati in a covered wagon when it was still frontier in about 1820. Many of their offspring went west as the country expanded, eventually reaching the Pacific John P owned corner of 5th and Race in Cinny( now Macy's Dept Store) and moved out to Blue Rock Tpk in Colerain ,where many of them are buried. I can copy what I have and mail it directly to you. My email is rgpouder@verizon.net George Pouder

Re: Andrew Pouder

gpouder — 2013-07-26 21:04:35Z

Andrew Pouder, private,50 th Ohio, was captured by the confederates at Franklin, Tenn. Was imprisoned at Cahaba, Ala and repatriated on the Sultana. He got off briefly at Memphis and returned with a sack of sugar to share with his starving buddies. When Sultana exploded he was scalded by the boiler's steam. Family tradition says he grabbed onto a floating sycamore log and hung on for four hours in the icy water. After being hospitalized he finally got back home, married, fathered three children and lived to 84 in Liberty, Indiana . Do you want his genealogy ? Glad to help.
George Pouder

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

dustynme — 2013-08-10 15:56:07Z

Sylvia, I have info on Jeremiah Singer listed on the sultana.cdi.astateweb.org/home site. How do I get the info to you?

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

droyer158 — 2013-03-04 19:40:00Z

according to what I have heard there were animals on board the ship -- per Gene Salecker there were also civilians on ship -- gene is a part of our group that meets every year -- this year we are meeting at the andersonville prision area.

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

droyer158 — 2013-03-04 19:37:27Z

I am searching for information on John T. Alexander who was on the Sultana -- according to the government role he survived -- i have proof that he did not with pension papers that were awarded to my gg-grandmother and g-grandmother who was only 8 at the time of his death. I would like to find out something about the Alexander family -- not sure where he was from -- I know they lived in the Bartholomew County, Indiana area. I belong to the Remember the Sultana group that will be meeting at the Andersonville prision area this April.

Re: Alonzo K. Smith - Company K, 22nd Infantry, MI

ali984tee — 2010-11-24 07:25:37Z

Thank you so much for your help! Alonzo is my gg-grandmother's first husband. They were both about 20 years old, she had two small babies when he enlisted. I just couldn't imagine horror and pain that he went through during the war, then in the prison for so long. And then to have this awful tragedy happen when he was finally on his way home. Just so awful!

Re: Alonzo K. Smith - Company K, 22nd Infantry, MI

tgoldutah — 2013-01-08 01:44:04Z

Could this be who you were looking for?

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Sm...;

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

tgoldutah — 2013-01-08 01:39:42Z

Can you confirm that brothers James Burris VanHorn and Arthur J. VanHorn were on board? Supposedly both survived, but Arthur died in Tennessee at a veterans hospital of smallpox.

James was born abt 1831 and died:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=83...

Arthur was born abt 1833 and died:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSsr=41...;

Both signed up for the service on the same day... not much is known about Arthur's service but several records exist for James.

Any additional information would be helpful if it exists.

Cindy Thredgold

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

tgoldutah — 2013-08-10 02:34:20Z

Sylviam,

Thank you for the update, James Burris usually went only by Burris, so I'm sure it's him. Thank you for checking into this for me!!

Cindy

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

jmcelhan1 — 2014-07-06 00:16:53Z

Hi Mr. Davis,

My name is Leann McElhaney and I believe that my 4th great grandfather, Bartley R. McMurray (mispelled Bartly R. McMurray or Bartly Russell McMurray) of Blount County, Tennessee, was on the Sultana. Family oral history has been told that he survived, although he could not swim, by hanging on to a dead animal that was floating in the water (although after reading many accounts I believe it was more likely a dead person as I have not seen in any accounts that there were animals on board).

Thanks so much for your time,
Leann McElhaney

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

1_Karensam — 2011-12-04 03:30:14Z

I am a great great grandaughter of a survivor of the sultana, Drury Wittenbarger. Who left the south and fought for the north. Fought against his own brothers. I know where his grave site is and all the info is on his grave marker. I am very intersested in all that happened that day. Karen W Russell

Re: Info on survivor Thomas Daughtery

sylviam_clemons — 2014-08-12 20:51:22Z

I don't know if you had found answer to this post or not but one problem might be the misspelling of his name on records, Daugherty. He was treated at Washington at Memphis for slight scald. He mustered out of service on July 14, 1865 at Edgefield, Tennessee. http://sultana.cdi.astateweb.org/people/edit/735

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

sylviam_clemons — 2013-08-10 07:20:56Z

I have a Manifest of Sultana's Passengers and crew list that I have been adding to our University website. There is only one listing for Van Horn. It is Burris Van Horn who is listed as a Private of the 95th Ohio Infantry Company F. It states he was captured at Brice's Cross Roads, Mississippi on June 10, 1864. He was 35 years old making him to be born around 1830. He is listed as surviving and was treated at Soldiers' Home. He mustered out May 20, 1865 at Columbus, Ohio.
Sincerely,
Sylvia

Also to note according to Civil War Prisons Website:
After he was captured he was sent from Cahaba Prison to Andersonville Prison in Alabama then exchanged at Vicksburg, Mississippi, April 10, 1865.

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

sylviam_clemons — 2013-08-10 07:10:53Z

Your Welcome. I was just reading through to see if there was any information, stories, pictures or persons that we may have missed for our University website about the Sultana. I have posted the link to this thread. It wasn't until January that I had even heard about the Sultana and now I am hooked. I want to get as much information about each person as possible as well as their story whatever their outcome happens to be and helping family members along the way is just a plus.

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

sylviam_clemons — 2013-08-14 04:31:12Z

Please email me at sylvia.clemons@smail.astate.edu and I will be happy to add it. Thanks

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

sylviam_clemons — 2013-08-14 04:29:24Z

I will look into it and get back to you

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

sylviam_clemons — 2013-08-09 06:52:04Z

I am doing research for Arkansas State University in regards to families of passengers onboard the Ill-Fated "Sultana". I wanted to make this post so that our website will be added to this post. Our University is involved with researching everything about the Sultana as well as helping with a museum in Marion, Arkansas near the site where the steamboat went down. I have family tree's created of some of the passengers, however this is an ongoing research in which we are still adding names to passengers list. If you have any questions, pictures, or any information you would like to share please contact me. Thank you, Sylvia
Our website link:
http://sultana.cdi.astateweb.org/home

Andrew Pouder

MARKW6 — 2013-05-31 10:27:13Z

I am looking for any information concerning ANDREW POUTER a Sultana survivor.... he was born in Cincinnati Ohio. Any info would be helpful and appreciated. Mark

Re: sultana deaths

MARKW6 — 2013-02-17 05:41:01Z

My name is Mark Willoughby, I live here in Cincinnati and have researched The Sultana now for four years for The History Channel. I am very interested in the construction of The Sultana here in Cincinnati ..... I believe I know what The Sultana looked like inside and know what the furnishings looked like. Lincoln's death and 660,000 killed during The Civil War overshadowed The Sultana disaster ...... the hell the men went through at Cahaba and Andersonville then The Sultana explosion ...... how sad ........ Mark

Re: Sultana Deaths/Survivors

MARKW6 — 2013-08-12 10:58:26Z

Sylvia, I am good friends with Louis Intres. I have been researching the Sultana and it's roots here in Cincinnati. Andrew Pouder a Sultana survivor, lived 100 yards out my back door! Would you have any additional information on him ???

Thank You, Mark Willoughby

ATTENTION gpouder !!!!!!

MARKW6 — 2014-04-17 02:54:44Z

I would love any records you have of Andrew Pouder, he was born 150 yards out my back door here in Colerain Township, Cincinnati, Ohio. I have been researching him and his family now for 5 years. All My Thanks ...... Mark Wi