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British Military or Diplomatic Employee 1860s

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Re: British Military or Diplomatic Employee 1860s

Posted: 1377713523000
Classification: Biography
Edited: 1377715206000
For soldiers discharged before 1883, Findmypast will ONLY have military records if a soldier was discharged to pension. Records of soldiers discharged for any other reason before 1883 will not have been preserved. Also, and not to be confused with UK regiments and corps of the British Army serving in India, there are only a handful of soldiers documents from (British)Indian Army regiments and corps, most are held in the India Office collections at the British Library, London.

Army returns of births may, but not always, record a birth of a British soldier’s child and Army Chaplain’s returns of baptisms will only record those carried out by an army chaplain and it’s also a similar case with Indian Army BMD’s as with soldiers records.

If he was a civilian employee then unless the parents reported the child’s birth at a British Consulate there will be no record in British Overseas BMD collections so a BMD event could prove difficult to trace, especially if the event happened in the West Indies. Luckily that is not the case with the East Indies (India, Ceylon and minor islands) as the India Office records at the British Library has over 3 million BMD records with just over 10% searchable online.

From the LDS Family Search web site at

That fits nicely with this from the British Library’s India Office Family History Search at

Name: James HILL; Event type: Birth; Date: 05 Jul; Year: 1861
Location: Trinity Church, Bangalore (sic)
Parents: David, Gnr., B. Co., 3rd Madras Art.; Annie
Event type: Baptism
Date: 23 Jul; Year: 1861
Location: Trinity Church, Bangalore
Parents: David, Gnr., B. Co., 3rd Madras Art.; Annie
Transcribed by: British Library
India Office Records Reference: N/2/42 f.196v
Source name:
Source year:
Source edition:
Presidency: Madras

Note for the father: Gnr., B. Co., 3rd Madras Art = Gunner, B Company, 3rd Madras Artillery

You should be able to obtain a copy of baptism record via the LDS or the British Library (charge) and the birth record from the British Library.

If the story about his being an “Embassy Guard” is correct that could mean he left the Army and took up employment at the Embassy; it’s possible the British Library has a record of either his military or civilian career in the India Office collections see

No trace of a marriage for David Hill on India Office Family History Search, but only 10% BMD records online
/UI/IorIntro.aspx for more information.

Could this be the father’s marriage from the LDS site:
David Hill, "India, Marriages, 1792-1948 "
Name: David Hill
Birth Date: 1837
Age: 23
Spouse's Name: Anne Couroy
Spouse's Birth Date: 1844
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 16
Event Date: 06 Jun 1860
Event Place: Palaveram, Madras, India
Father's Name: George Hill
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: James Couroy
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Marital Status: Single
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00059-9
System Origin: India-EASy
GS Film number: 521851
Reference ID: bk 1

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