Thank you for the guidance, I have 3 different family legs in Hungary (Pape) who may be able to get his exact birth date? One 2nd cousin got me his wife's (my grand mothers) from her death record and she passed away 10 years early. I have his father and mothers names and photos. My mum says it was Trieste (she is 78) but remembers him bringing home tropical fruit from Italy 1939 to 1941 then stopped serving and stayed farming for the rest of WWII. I'll ask my mum again.