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James & Sarah White

James & Sarah White

Posted: 1555484419000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1555500397000
Surnames: White, Forester
Dear Genealogists,

Can anyone help please? I am trying to connect the dots. My great grandmother Fanny White was born in 1829 to James White (b:1805) and Sarah White nee Forester (b:1808) and was christened at Westhampnett. Her sister Charlotte was also christened at Westhamnett and was born around 1830/31. James and Sarah married in 1829.

In 1832 - there is the following entry:
New South Wales 1832
List of Male Convicts by the Ship Lady Harewood...arrived from England 5 August 1832

Indent No. 151
James White
Age - 21
Read/Write - None
Religion - Protestant
Single, Married, or Widowed - Married
Children - 2 Female
Native Place - Sussex
Trade/Calling - Ploughman, shepherd, milks, sows, reaps
Offence - Stealing grain
Where Tried - Sussex Quarter Sessions
When Tried - 17 October 1831
Sentence - 7 Years
Former Conviction - None
Height - 5 feet 5 3/4 inches
Complexion - Fair ruddy
Hair - Brown
Eyes - Chestnut
Marks - Scar right side of forehead, small red mark outer corner of red eye

For sometime I have been trying to find out when Fanny and her sister Charlotte arrived in Australia. There are no records of them in passenger lists including those for convicts. Sometimes the family of convicts accompanied them. Children were rarely named or identified. What I know is that Fanny states she came to South Australia in 1847. This I believe was possibly from NSW with her sister as they both ended up living in SA. Two years before she passed she was admitted to the Destitute Asylum in Adelaide and states that she was born in Chichester Sussex. That her father's name is James White.

After 1832 I cannot find any reference to Sarah White and her daughters. Did Sarah die early perhaps in child birth? I can't seem to identify her in the death records. Were the girls sent out to Australia separately or with their father? So far I can't find them in any shipping records even between the states.

If anyone has a suggestion or two I would really appreciate the help.

Many thanks
Karen

Re: James & Sarah White

Posted: 1556917689000
Classification: Lookup
Hello Karen,
Not to sure if any of this is will be of interest to you-see what you think.

Baptism 5 June 1808 Aldingbourne, Sussex, England
Sarah Forester Daughter of William Forester & Mary

Marriage 21 June 1829 Boxgrove, Sussex, England
James White & Sarah Forester

Baptism 4 Oct 1829 Tillington, Westhamnett,Sussex, England
Fanny White Daughter of James White & Sarah, Fathers Occupation Labourer

Baptism 15 May 1831 Westhampnett, Sussex, England
Charlotte White Daughter of James & Sarah White. Fathers Occupation Labourer.

1841 Census
East Lavant
Westhampnet
Boxgrove,
Sussex,
England
James White Head age 45 b. 1796 Westhampnett,Sussex. Carter.
Anna White age 15 b. 1826 Sussex.
Daniel White age 20 b. 1821 Sussex. Agricultural Labourer.

1841 Census
West Itchenor
Westhampnett
Sussex
England
Fanny White age 15 b. 1836 Sussex
She is in the Household of William Gibbs & Family age 45 Occupation Yeoman with
lots of people Census is very sparse on occupations of other people, also in household George Stares age 35 Solicitor, Also a Nurse,so unsure what the establishment is.

1851 Census
17 Princes Street
Mile End New Town
Stepney
Middlesex
England
James White age 49 b. 1802 Sussex. Blacksmith
Sarah White Wife age 49 b. 1802 Middlesex, St Giles

Hope this helps in some small way.
Regards
Maureen
Liverpool.UK

Re: James & Sarah White

Posted: 1556926315000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1556976998000
Surnames: White, Forester
Dear Maureen,

Thank you so much. I had most of that information but the 1941 Census of Fanny aged 15 is of most interest. I think there is a mistake with her birth being 1836 - as in 1841 she would be 5 years old. G grandmother Fanny was christened in 1829 the same year as James and Sarah married. So I think it is conceivable that this Fanny you have found is our girl. She would have been 13/14 in 1841 if she was born in 1828/29. Also I found Charlotte her sister was on the census being 10 years old and working. This leads me to believe that when Fanny lists she arrived in Australia on the "Royal Admiral" that information is correct - the last voyage of that ship was in 1842 and it was an all female convict transportation except for two free women and nine children. I think Fanny and her sister Charlotte may have been among those children. I am trying to find out where the original ship's manifest is held. In 1844 that ship sank off the coast of India.

Apparently Earl Grey had set up a reunification for wives and families of convicts and they were transported to the colony by the Australian and British Governments. Unfortunately on the passenger lists they didn't identify children. Also I wonder what happened to Sarah White nee Forester?

Again thanks you so much for your help that has given me renewed hope in piecing this puzzle together.

Re: James & Sarah White

Posted: 1556987899000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1557001174000
Hello again Karen,
Thank you for your reply, even if a small thing helps it can push you on.
If I can be of any further help don't hesitate to ask.

Regards
Maureen.
Liverpool.UK

Re: James & Sarah White

Posted: 1557007830000
Classification: Query
Thank you so much Maureen - you are so kind.
Have a wonderful day/evening.

Cheers from DownUnder to UpOver
Karen
The Rain Forest, Melbourne VIC
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