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Andrew Ross (View posts)
Posted: 892641600000
Classification: Query

Looking for A David Ross born around 1798-1806 in the PArishes of Elgin, New Spynie or Drainie to unknown parents. He became a Stonemason, and Married Euphemia Shand in Glasgow in Nov 1829.

Also looking for Euphemia Shand born around 1798-1808 in the PArishes of Elgin, New Spynie or Drainie. Parents James Shand, a carter or day labourer and Elizabeth Mackie or McKAy. There are details of some children
John b 1.11.1789 Drainie Moray
James b 9.1.1791 Alves Moray
Elizabeth b 21.5.1797 Dyke Moray
Elspeth b 17.7.1802 Drainie Moray
but no details of Euphemia. Can anyone offer any suggestions?
She died in Banff in 1868.died in Banff in 1868.


Andrew Ross (View posts)
Posted: 902836800000
Classification: Query

Looking for any SHANDs born to James Shand and Elizabeth McKay (Mckie) between 1800-1810


Cheryl Franceschi (View posts)
Posted: 905515200000
Classification: Query
Surnames: James Shand, James Shand
I suppose I could go on but am not sure if there is a connection. I have lots of Shands, a line of McKay (Isabella b.1808 Urquhart?) as well as Blackhall,McLennans, Mitchells,Richardsons,Scotts and Moir. See any overlaps with your filenames? The Shands I have born around 1801 and up are only from John Shand and Isobell Scott but they may be of same family as John's father was James Shand. I am curious to hear from you as I live in Canada and have pursued the Shand line but not as thoroughly as I intend. John Shand b.1801 is my gggg-grandfather. Cheryl at "

John Shand dob 1 Nov 1789

Posted: 943790400000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1022317583000
Surnames: Shnad, Mackie
from Drainie Parish register : entry no 28, Nov 1 1789 -
James Shand in Greens of Kinneddar had his lawful son by Elizabeth Mackie, born ultimo (sic), baptized (sic) and called John. Witness John Shand, Greens and John Wilson in Merrytown. (Verbatim)


Posted: 1048293948000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1077005971000
I have an Andrew ROSS from Elgin born about 1840,son of Anrew and Agnes ? please mail me
Regards Peter

Re: Shand

Michelle Rowe (View posts)
Posted: 1122846778000
Classification: Query
Hi Cheryl. Can you help me with a William SHAND born c 1806 in Lhanbryde?
He Moved to Latheron,Caithness sometime before he married and had children.
Posted: 1368202479000
Classification: Query
James SHAND and Elizabeth MACKIE had a lawful daughter named ELSPETH - born 10th.July,1802 and baptised 17th.July at Drainie, Moray, Scotland. I believe/read that the church she was baptised in at Drainie is situated now within the confines of the ROYAL AIR FORCE base at KINLOSS near Elgin - and may not be accessible to the public.
I am working at the moment towards finding descendants of James Shand and Elizabeth Mackie if anyone out there can help.


Posted: 1368203620000
Classification: Query
The remains of the old parish kirk of Kinneddar are inside the Royal Air Force base at Lossiemouth, not Kinloss (which is no longer an RAF base but an Army base). It is not generally accessible to the public.

If I have got the process right, you should be able to see the sites of two old kirks, both now under the RAF base, on this map:
Posted: 1368217455000
Classification: Query

Have you tried

from a quick look some of the family are there.


Posted: 1368219777000
Classification: Cemetery
Kinneddar Graveyard beside the manse is outwith the airfield and there are some Shand graves there and it is accessible.

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