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Is there an online source of individuals in the Loyalist Refugee Camps?

Is there an online source of individuals in the Loyalist Refugee Camps?

Posted: 1437964176000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Commins, Cummins, Cummings
I would like to search those records for COMMINS/CUMMINS/CUMMINGS:
Abraham (1768–1828) whom I believed moved his family from Granville, Washington Co., New York, USA to Canada approximately 1794. Wife Seena (1771–1848), sons Daniel (1790-1855), Abraham Jr. (1792-1872), and James (1794-1880). James may have been born on the trip to Canada or in Canada proper, maybe even in the Refugee Camp. All things I am trying to discover or document.

If such records are not available online is the some way to search from here in Texas?

Re: Is there an online source of individuals in the Loyalist Refugee Camps?

Posted: 1438026441000
Classification: Query
Try this website.
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/land/land-petitions-up....

There are 3 petitions for land made by an Abraham Cumming or Cummings. Under search database type in surname Cumming and 120 names will be displayed. Type in Abraham Cumming and information for 3 petitions will appear.

Re: Is there an online source of individuals in the Loyalist Refugee Camps?

Posted: 1438097117000
Classification: Query
Those land grants date after 1800, and he does not appear on the UEL list here:

http://www.uelac.org/Loyalist-Info/loyalist_list.php?letter=...

nor on the Old UEL list:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~apassagein...

Follow this thread here:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/UNITED-EMPIRE-...

Posting by an individual who claims descendency from Abraham Cummings (loyalist in waiting).

Thank you for your response, I was really hoping for Refugee Camp Records, not land records. Any ideas?

Posted: 1438113577000
Classification: Query
According to Patrick Cummings, Abraham Cummings appeared in petitions for South Gower, consession 4, Lot9. Though his name appeared on the first map it was not found later, and he is found settled in Augusta, Lot 16.
I've just wondered if by chance during the time they where trying to acquire the land did they live in one of the Refugee Settlements? Can that be documented?

Re: Thank you for your response, I was really hoping for Refugee Camp Records, not land records. Any ideas?

Posted: 1438130070000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1438168001000
I'm not aware of any refugee camp records. The only records that might come close are the provisioning lists for disbanded Loyalists from 1783 -1786. There are 4 Cummings listed , but no Abraham. These can be found on Ancestry.ca under Immigration & Travel with the title of Early Ontario Settlers.
search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=48451

Re: Thank you for your response, I was really hoping for Refugee Camp Records, not land records. Any ideas?

Posted: 1438184188000
Classification: Query
There were some refugee camps in St.John's and Sorel (Quebec) during the American Revolution, and there are lists but that stops in 1784 when the townships were opened for Loyalists. If your ancestor arrived in 1794, he would not have stayed in a refugee camp at all. Best bet for that time period is the Upper Canada Land Petitions which are online on Library and Archives Website. They can be dated after the date of arrival. Another good source is the Upper Canada Land Board, also on the LAC website, since many emigrants in the 1790s were settled by the local Land boards instead.
To understand the process of settlement in that period, there is a great guide on the Archives of Ontario website called from Grant to Patent: A guide to Early Land Settlement, 1790-1850.
http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/en/access/documents/research_g...

In 1794, most of the settlers who came to Upper Canada were attracted by cheap land. It was not unusual for them to acquire some land and possibly exchange it for some other piece of land, maybe closer to family or friends.
OliveTree Genealogy has great blogs about finding ancestors in this really difficult time period. She includes step by step guides for petitions, land books and other. So many new ressources have been put online that it is much easier to do from afar, but there are still some records that might need to be ordered on microfilms from the Ontario Archives.
http://olivetreegenealogy.blogspot.ca/2014/03/finding-ancest...
Good luck

Re: Thank you for your response, I was really hoping for Refugee Camp Records, not land records. Any ideas?

Posted: 1438184464000
Classification: Query
Another interesting place to look is in the Township Papers for each township -- a collection of documents for which there wasn't a better place to file them -- by lot and concession #, they often include the location tickets for the first settler and associated documents.

Township Papers at Archives of Ontario

Posted: 1438185744000
Classification: Query
The Township Papers are indeed a wonderful ressource, but they can be hit or miss. They are arranged by the name of the township, and within each township by concession and lots.
They are available via Inter-Library Loan from the Archives of Ontario. Their website has a list by township including the microfilm numbers.
http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/en/microfilm/crown_land_townsh...
For exemple, for Augusta township, the microfilm numbers are MS 658 reels 22 to 25, and for South Gower MS 658 reels 164 and 165.
The Township papers are also available from ILL from LDS in Salt Lake. If you search the familysearch catalog for microfilm under keyword "township papers" The main author is Ontario. Crown Lands Department. They are also listed by township names and you can order films you need. The reels don't match the AO numbers.
If you live in the US, it is probably easier to order from LDS in Salt Lake.
Some genealogical societies have transcribed Township Papers for their area, but I don't think this has been done for your area.
Good luck.
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