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Santimaw Family

Santimaw Family

Posted: 1057978690000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1068086100000
Surnames: Santimaw, St.Amand, St.Amant
I am curious what you know about Santimaw? I have information from Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery that has Santimaw listed. My great Uncle always said that the spelling related to the way the name sound in French. As the name went down the line it had variations on the spellings...Santiman, Santimaugh, Sentimen and so on. Just curious where you are from and those relatives are from?

Re: Santimaw Family

garysantimawjr. (View posts)
Posted: 1068511778000
Classification: Query
u ask me what i know about santimaw ? well do the math i am one. and by the way who is your gret uncle.??? i asked u this several times your sounding like a mystery.please email me personally.sounds like u got the wrong info. someone is telling u myths.the reason i speek out is because,we our family the SANTIMAWS. have never heard this.i need to talk with u so i can find your source??cause someone's pulling your arm.
gigsantimaw@aol.com

Re: Santimaw Family

Posted: 1068565773000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1068693567000
Well, your message is somewhat confusing to me. You say you have asked many times. The only other posting I find is from September and seemed not to relate to my question.

If you review the Census information, you will find many different variations/spellings of my family name St.Amand. I also have photos of grave markers with the spelling Santimaw on it. Probably no relation to you, but as I said....spellings were many times as they sounded.

Was just curious where your family is from. Mine is from just south of Ottawa, Ontario.

Thank you

Re: Santimaw Family

GARYSANTIMAWJR. (View posts)
Posted: 1068596327000
Classification: Query
u still haven't answered my question to who your great uncle is? that also confuses me a santimaw ? and may i add that if u are a santimaw u do have my blood there is no other way.and if the grave said santimaw then i am of him.u say your name is what? stamand ?how does my name my blood my heritage have anything to do with stamand? if my name is on that stone i wanna see it !! it sounds like husband and wife names are on the stone. ?? BUT OF NO RELATION.COULD U ALSO TELL ME YOUR GREAT UNCLE. and yes my family is from CANADA !!!!! u need to tell me how satimen satiman come in the picture ???? it wasn't spelt how it sounded. and i know that for a fact !!!!! from a great man from canada that is my grandfather.WITH THE NAME SANTIMAW ya see the sons come here four of them [big men.] i am of there decent. have faith Beth i know what i'm talking about.i'll fill ya in on more .but first who is your great uncle ?? i'm in upstate n.y.----- hope to hear from ya-have a nice day. .<:

Re: Santimaw Family

Posted: 1068631505000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1116942455000
Surnames: St. Amand, Santimaw, St. Onge
Gary,
If your family came from Prescott, Ontario, or around there, and to Northern NY, i.e. St. Lawrence County, Jefferson, Franklin, Clinton, Essex Counties, where my family came from, then your name of Santimaw was originally St. Amand. This is common knowledge among Northern NY French Canadian researchers. The name St. Amand sounds like Santimaw when pronounced, and most changed their names when coming from Quebec/Ontario to NY, Vermont, Michigan, etc. People wanted to Americanize their names and the census takers were not allowed to ask people how to spell their last names; it was illegal, so census spellings will vary AS will tombstones and SOME of the Santimaws did go back to the original spelling of St. Amand, but more kept a variant with Santimaw being common. Some wanted to differentiate themselves from their brothers or cousins living nearby so they either used a different spelling or used their "dit" name. Many of the French Canadians in the 1800's could not read and write and many many records have corrupted spellings that stuck.

I am from the St.Onge family of Beauharnois Quebec, to Prescott, Ontario, and finally to St. Lawrence Co. NY (and some to Michigan, Wisconsin, and Connecticut.) However, very few of my ancestors kept that name St. Onge or went back to that spelling by the 1920's......most went on to use Santo, Santos, Santois, Santaw, and Santaus, which is the name used by my family now. Believe me, I grew up knowing my grandmother as Bertha Ann Santaus of Ogdensburg, NY, not as Bertha Ann St. Onge and it took a long time of investigating and learning to speak French and understand immigration patterns and genealogy to understand how Santaus came from St. Onge.

I cannot say for certain that you are related to every Santimaw on here, but most likely you are related to the ones from the same vicinity. Some changed the name to Santimo and Santamaugh. If you go to the main search page and put in "Sant*" just like that with an asterisk, you are going to find a whole slew of French Canadians in NY, Mich, Wisconsin, Vermont, Connecticut, and even some down south whose names come from St. Amand (Santimaw) and St. Onge (Santo).

I would say look carefully at first every Santimaw, then every Santimo, and then Santamaugh and finally St. Amand. Once you get all of the variations into a database you can start connecting people and it will all come together. It took me almost two years to get from one Bertha Ann Santaus in Ogdensburg to her grandparents Antoine St. Onge and Catherine LeBoeuf of Beauharnois Quebec, and the "dit" names will throw you off along the way.

Most of the people on here have the same goal and I have found their advice to be extremely rewarding. I started knowing nothing about dit names a few years ago. I am not an expert by any means but I am a degreed researcher by occupation and genealogy is my only hobby. There is not a day of the week that goes by that I do not work on my French Canadians even if I am only thinking about the mysteries and trying to draw conclusions!

Beth and Gary, I hope this helped a little :-) HAVE FUN!!! Genealogy is a wonderful and cherished hobby that your descendants will thank you for!!!

Teresa in NY

Re: Santimaw Family

garysantimawjr (View posts)
Posted: 1068649607000
Classification: Query
there is one last name that u did not mention?.i wonder how u missed that.? i thanku for your professional oppinion teresa.may i ask why u do not know any of the santimaws in upstate ny.we are the FIRST link of the true santimaws that come from canada,ITWAS CHANGED please don't take it the wrong way but u need to look further since we bare the name here.and may i ask if the name changed from canada to n.y. then how does the name exist there?? do u understand ?? that name santimaw should not of existed then, only now. since it changed coming here.again how can u trace santimw there if it changed when comig here. i hate to repeat myself,but i just talked to a santim. that is 92 yrs old.what is the oldest santimaw that u know.? i have bear witness to this, so i beg to differ with u.he said many great tales.i also know his uncles and father. so if u do the math that puts the father and uncles being born in the middle 1800's. i know of one last name that u did not use? that beloged to these men? and this is the only time it changed unless u can give me the names of there father and an earlier date prior to 1840.thats the missing link.! also what his last name is.? thanku G.G.

Re: Santimaw Family

Posted: 1068654856000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1068693567000
As a follow up to why someone asks, when something appears to be similiar in Surnames.

1901 St.Amand South Gower Township Div. 2 Pg.2 Nos. 75
1891 St.Amand South Gower Township Div. 1 pg. 21 Nos. 100
1881 Santamow South Gower Township Div. 1 pg. 5 Nos. 23
1881 Santamo Oxford-on-Rideau Township Div. 3 pg. 28 Nos. 130
1871 Santamaw Oxford-on-Rideau Township Div. 1 Pg.20 Nos. 68

1871 Santaman Oxford-on-Rideau Township Div. 1 pg. 62 Nos. 214

1861 Sentiman Oxford-on-Rideau Township Div. 1 pg. 9 Nos. 48

All of this various spellings of names are from Census searches for Ontario, which include photo copies from Microfilm of the Census documents.

In many cases names were misspelled or simply spelled as they sounded.

Again, we as researchers like to explore options and all possibilities. Thanks

Re: Santimaw Family

Posted: 1068672968000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1116942455000
Your surname, like my St. Onge, came closer to the real thing as the decades went on and people became more literate.

I have found my St. Onge not only and Santo, Santon, and Santois, but Santay and even Sententos!! Even Centaue!! I never once found them as St.Onge in the census until 1920, and then only a few.

Unfortunately the idexes don't always correspond with the actual image either...and ancestry lists them the way the index is.

I usually just go "sant*" and look at everyone....I sure would have millsed alot of people if I hadn't.

Also, I have found the "Sants..." indexed as "Lants..." because the S looks like an L until closer examination. So I would even suggest to the Santimaw researchers that you look for "Lantimo" etc. and even "Lamtimaw"...since that n is sometimes indexed as an "n".

Happy tree building!!

Re: Santimaw Family

Posted: 1068673736000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1116942455000
Gary,
Many people changed there name in Canada before coming to St. Lawrence Co.

My family was first in Quebec, as St. Onge's, Chatigny's, and Dupuis. They then went to Ontario and changed to Santos, Chateney, and Dupuy/Dupee, and when they came to Ogdensburg they became Santaus' and the Dupuis/Dupuy became Wells and the Chatigny's became Shatney's and to this day that is what we are.

Ontario had more German and English-speaking people then Quebec and that may have had alot to do with it.

I am not disputing that there were Santimaw's in Canada, I am just saying that for the most part you will find that the Santimaw family became Santimaw's in the mid-1800's, around the same time many French names were changed either in Ontario or NY/Vermont.

I do not personally know any Santimaw's in Ogdensburg but I have seen the name often in my research of Northern NY. I live in Western NY and we don't have any Santimaw's here as far as I know, although many French Canadians did settle here.

Re: Santimaw Family

Posted: 1070574514000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Sentiman
Hi....Can you Help Me Please.....
I preform a search for the surname Sentiman and it sent me to your message...... I do not know for sure if Sentiman was my Great Great Grandmothers Maiden Name but it is all I have for now......and I am wondering if it was spelled wrong and her Name was something else because I find very little reference to that name anywhere.....
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