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They were still calling them Plantations, even after Emancipation

They were still calling them Plantations, even after Emancipation

Jo Trammell (View posts)
Posted: 1012607777000
Classification: Query
Older relatives keep telling me that my Swanns lived on the "Berry Brock Plantation" in Fairburn, Campbell County, Georgia. Henry Swann & his family lived there, circa early 1900s.

Has anyone ever heard of this place, area, people, family?

If you have any info, please share.

Thanks...

Re: They were still calling them Plantations, even after Emancipation

Wright (View posts)
Posted: 1012613757000
Classification: Query
First, I would like to define the term plantation. In Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary, it is defined as a usually large group of plants and especially trees. This is a fairly vague definition that does not give any detail about how the stand was established.

Put simply:
Plantations are a crop - a form of agriculture.
Native forest logging is more akin to hunting and gathering

Main Entry: plan·ta·tion
Pronunciation: plan-'tA-sh&n
Function: noun
Date: 1569
1 : a usually large group of plants and especially trees under cultivation
2 : a settlement in a new country or region
3 a : a place that is planted or under cultivation b : an agricultural estate usually worked by resident labor

Secondly, I would like to ask why you stated, "even after the emancipation they still call them plantations". The imancipation has nothing to do with plantations. There are many working plantations in the south today. Also, Please read below.

Source:
"The Great Proclamation" (1960), Commager, Henry Steele; "Mr. Lincoln's Proclamation" (1964), Donovan, Frank; "The Emancipation Proclamation" (1964), Franklin, John Hope, ed.

THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION:

Whereas on the 22nd day of September, A.D. 1862, a proclamation was issued by the President of the United States, containing, among other things, the following, to wit:

"That on the 1st day of January, A.D. 1863, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free.....
(please note the use of "rebellion against the USA" which does not include the Union States)

Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana (except the parishes of St. Bernard, Palquemines,Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James, Ascension, Assumption, Terrebone,Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the city of New
Orleans), Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Virginia (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkeley, Accomac, Northhampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess Anne, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth), and which excepted parts are for the present left precisely as if this proclamation were not issued."

NOTE - Slavery was NOT abolished in one Confederate (Tennessee) and four Union states (Maryland, Delaware. Kentucky, West Virginia, and Missouri).


Re: They were still calling them Plantations, even after Emancipation

Jo Trammell (View posts)
Posted: 1012619769000
Classification: Query
Thanks for your fountain of information. However, I really did not require the lesson on Plantations or the Emancipation Proclamation. I am simply researching my ancestors that once lived/worked on that particular plantation. My intent was not to offend or receive a response that could be construed to convey such arrogance.

I listed my query as such, because my older relations advised that even after Emancipation, my African American ancestors still lived, worked, married, had children and died, on the same Plantations where they were once slaves, but after Emancipation they were struggling "share-croppers", but free. And living on the plantation.

Perhaps, another African American with a similar query would have information on the Berry Brock Plantation in Georgia; another reason for my choice in naming my query.

Thanks for the diatribe, but in this case it was not needed. I did not require Webster's definition of plantations. It appears that perhaps you need to get over some things and realize that even during the late 1800's, early 1900's the ex-slaves were still calling those great bastions of the south Plantations. Your lesson on the Emancipation Proclamation was also not required. The Internet holds many avenues for me to gain that knowledge as well.

Do you have any information on the Swanns that once resided on the Berry Brock Plantation? That is what I am looking for; information on a certain piece of land in Fairburn, Ga., once inhabited by people who may have been my ancestors.

Now, if you do have any info on the Berry Brock Plantation in Georgia where emancipated slaves that took on the surname Swann, still worked the land in the late 1800's, early 1900's - that's a different story.

Happy hunting...

Re: They were still calling them Plantations, even after Emancipation

Posted: 1012663459000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1071460076000
Surnames: Brock Swann
I am not aware of a "Berry Brock Plantation" in Campbell Co.

There was a Berry Brock b. 1894 who was the s/o Augustus Lafayette Brock, the youngest son of Henry Brock (b. 1802 in SC). Henry Brock owned several hundred acres of land in Campbell Co. and, according to tax and census records, owned as many as 4 slaves at one time. Berry Brock had a son, Berry, Jr., who still lives in South Fulton Co. on land once owned by Henry.

Aside from those two men, I know of no other Berry Brock's. It sounds like your Swanns may have been living on land owned by Berry Brock, Sr. which they called the Berry Brock Plantation.

What other info do you have? How old are the relatives who are giving you your info? What dates were they living on the BB Plantation?

Re: They were still calling them Plantations, even after Emancipation

Posted: 1012667348000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brock Swann
More information.

I looked at the 1920 Campbell Co. census (on-line) and found the following:

Mason Bridge Rd., Sandtown District

Family #117 is John A. Brock, age 70; wife Elizabeth, 61, and son A????s, 14. The next family (#118) is a Swann family who were black.

Swann, Wilson(?) 39
Maybeth(?) ??
Ethel(?) ??
A???? L. 14 (female)
Henry 12
Rosie 10
Howard 9
Horace(?) 5

The handwriting is very difficult to read, so I may have some of the info wrong.

John A. Brock was the s/o of John Brock and Ginsey Thomas. John Brock and Henry Brock were the only two Brock’s on the 1830 Campbell Co. census and were probably brothers from SC.

If these are the Swann’s you are seeking, let me know. I have much info about the Brock’s (I am descended from Henry), but nothing about the Swann’s. I would be interested in finding out if the two families were related. It might help solve a mystery involving Europha Brock. She is identified on the 1870 census as black, living next to Joel Brock (s/o Henry). She left a will (in which she is classified as “Colored”) which mentions several of her children and was witnessed by Joel Brock and Thomas Brock (both sons of Henry). Joel and Thomas were listed as executors. It seems likely that Europha was a former slave whose children were fathered by a Brock male (most likely Henry but possibly John or one of their sons).

Good Luck!

Mick

Re: They were still calling them Plantations, even after Emancipation

Jo Trammell (View posts)
Posted: 1012687641000
Classification: Query
I really appreciate the information you have provided. You're terrific!

My Henry Swann was born in 1857 and raised his children on what they called the "Berry Brock Plantation". This had to be after 1900. I found the family intact during the census of 1900, after that everyone scattered and it has been difficult finding some of them.

Charlotte Swann, Henry's daughter worked as a domestic for the Berry Brock's, approximately 1911.

My grandmother and her sister are in their late 80's, their mother was Henry Swann's daughter, so they have told me stories involving this location. Their mother, Lemmie Swann-Crawford is said to have left the Berry Brock Plantation in 1916 & ended up in Pike County.

Perhaps, my Henry had been in this location during the lifetime of the elder Brock. I will research further.

Again, thanks so much for the information. You have provided me with another avenue to venture down and I do appreciate your help.

...the hunt continues....

Re: They were still calling them Plantations, even after Emancipation

Jo Trammell (View posts)
Posted: 1012689344000
Classification: Query
Mic -

I hope you can feel this GREAT BIG KISS coming at you from Ft. Lauderdale, Florida!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you. I cannot verify all the information you have provided right now, but I think we are on to something.

Perhaps, your Europha Brock is somehow connected - perhaps my Henry Swann is one of her sons, her brother?

So far, I have only found Henry & his family once - in the census of 1900. They were in the Campbellton District, Militia #733 in Campbell County. I have yet to determine Henry's parentage or locate other siblings. Oral history claims that as an infant, his mother ran away from (where, I still don't know) her owners carrying Henry in a crocker sack. Once she made it to Georgia, there's a dead end.

On the census of 1900 he stated that his mother was born in Virginia. Was Europha born in Virginia?

Another bit of information...my grandmother tells me the reason I come to a dead in, in trying to locate Henry's children is because when they left Campbell County, they were so fair-skinned that they went up north and were "passing". They were no longer "colored", you know.

Again, thanks. I will get back to you once I sort out all of this wonderful information. You have been great and I really appreciate you.

Hope you have as much luck with your search as I have received from all who responded to my query.

Have fun everyone!

Re: They were still calling them Plantations, even after Emancipation

Posted: 1012956623000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Swann
New info. I have the 1880 census on CD so it's easy to find things. I believe your Henry Swann was in the household below. You will notice that his race was given as MU (mulatto) which possibly lends credence to your stories of his children "passing."

1880 Census
Census Place: District 731, Campbell, Georgia
Source: FHL Film 1254137 National Archives Film T9-0137 Page 518A

Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
Wm. L. WILSON Self M M W 40 GA
Occ: Farmer Fa: GA Mo: GA
Catherine E. WILSON Wife F M W 31 GA
Fa: SC Mo: SC
Mary L. WILSON Dau F S W 7 GA
Fa: GA Mo: GA
Olive E. WILSON Dau F S W 5 GA
Fa: GA Mo: GA
Wm. C. WILSON Son M S W 3 GA
Fa: GA Mo: GA
Joseph F. WILSON Son M S W 2 GA
Fa: GA Mo: GA
Katie M. WILSON Dau F S W 4M GA
Fa: GA Mo: GA
Henry SWANN Other M S MU 21 GA
Occ: Laborer Fa: GA Mo: GA
Adam WILSON Other M S B 20 GA
Occ: Laborer Fa: GA Mo: GA
Robt. CRAWFORD Other M S MU 21 GA
Occ: Laborer Fa: GA Mo: GA

Good Luck. (And let me know if you connect to Eurohia Brock).

Mick

Re: They were still calling them Plantations, even after Emancipation

Jo Trammell (View posts)
Posted: 1013216585000
Classification: Query
Mick -

Thank you. I have received so much info from you that is leading me to much more.

First, please give me more info on your Ms. Brock. Was she from Virginia? About how old was she? And, if possible, when was her will dated?

Isn't it a bit odd, that Henry was found working for a Wilson family, then down the road in another Militia district, there's a "Wilson Swann"?

Thanks again and don't forget the info on Euphora. I would like to help you, since you have been so wonderful.

Thanks again.

Re: They were still calling them Plantations, even after Emancipation

Posted: 1013224459000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1071460076000
Surnames: Brock
Here is everything I know about Europhia.

Listed on pg. 36 of the 1870 Campbell Co. census (Campbellton Dist.), Family #1157: Europha Brock, 53, black, Keeping House, $200 value of real property, born in NC; George, 23, black, Farm Laborer; Harrison, 18, black, Farm laborer; Minnie, 15, black, Domestic service; Liza, 13, black, Domestic service; Milton, 15, black, Farm labor; Ann, 12, black. All the children were born in Ga. Household #1155 was Nancy Brock, 57, (widow of Henry Brock), and Household #1156 was Henry Brock, 35 (son of Henry and Nancy Brock).

Listed on pg. 601D of the 1880 Campbell Co., GA census: Joel Brock, widower, age 45, born in South Carolina. Others in the household were Richard Brock, nephew, age 9; Mary Brock, niece, age 21; Ann Stricklin, other, black, single, age 22; Eugene Latham, other, black, single, age 18; Thomas Wilson, other, black, single, age 45; Minnie Brock, other, black, single, age 28; Frank Haynes, other, widower, black, age 65.

On page 77 of Campbell Co. Will Book B, the will of Europhia Brock (colored) lists son Oliver Brock, daughters Jemimah Brock, Sarah Elizabeth Brock, grandson Milton Strickland (a later codicil, 12/3/1873, disinheriting Milton Strickland), granddaughter Ann Strickland. The Executors were Thomas Brock, and Joel Brock, witnessed by Thomas Brock, Joel Brock, and Robert J. Tuggle, signed on 15 Jun 1871, probated on 4 Jan 1875. Thomas and Joel Brock were sons of Henry and Nancy, and Robert J. Tuggle was a lawyer who lived next to Nancy Brock.

The Ann Strickland mentioned in the will is undoubtedly the same individual as Ann Stricklin in the 1880 census. Minnie Brock may have been a daughter or granddaughter of Europhia.
It is obvious that Europhia Brock and the family of Henry (1802) Brock were very close. It is also interesting that a black female was a land owner in Georgia 4 years after the Civil War.

Anything you can add would be greatly appreciated.

Mick
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