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Need help with my great grandfather, Joseph DiAngelo, Camden New Jersey.

Need help with my great grandfather, Joseph DiAngelo, Camden New Jersey.

Posted: 1541286528000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1541286633000
Surnames: DiAngelo, De Angelis, Di Angelis, Grasso
I am asking for help to find my great-grandfather, Joseph DiAngelo (paternal.) He was born December 21, 1897. Although, he sometimes changed his birthdate to being born in February. (we don't know why) He was born in Corato, Italy. (We are not for certain on that fact, it was on the official manifest.)He immigrated and lived in Camden, New Jersey, USA, for the rest of his living life. I have only found one census from 1940, and other from that, that's it. This is the hardest side I've endured in my family history search so far. His wife was Anna L. Grasso, born in New Jersey on January 4, 1901. He had 10 children with Anna. The stories that my late grandfather was told was that his name was Giuseppe De Angelis or (Di Angelis) and when he immigrated from Italy somehow it got messed up and changed to DiAngelo (obviously Giuseppe being the Italian version of Joseph.) I really have no facts about his siblings, mother or father at all. We think his father's name was Nicholas, but, as you know, that could've been completely different because it was two different countries. If you could find anything at all, please let me know, and reply below. Thank You.

Re: Need help with my great grandfather, Joseph DiAngelo, Camden New Jersey.

Posted: 1541290358000
Classification: Query
Joseph Diangelo
in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995

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Name: Joseph Diangelo
Gender: Male
Residence Year: 1920
Street address: 320 Walnut
Residence Place: Camden, New Jersey, USA
Occupation: Laborer
Spouse: Anna Diangelo
Publication Title: Camden, New Jersey, City Directory, 1920
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Joseph Diangelo
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Name: Joseph Diangelo
Gender: Male
Residence Year: 1923
Street address: 320 Walnut
Residence Place: Camden, New Jersey, USA
Occupation: Laborer
Spouse: Anna Diangelo
Publication Title: Camden, New Jersey, City Directory, 1923
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Re: Need help with my great grandfather, Joseph DiAngelo, Camden New Jersey.

Posted: 1541290809000
Classification: Query
Name
Joseph DiAngelo
Spouse
Anna Grasso
Father
Nicholas De Angelis
Mother
Rita De Angelis
Children
Joseph
Birth
12 Feb 1897 Corato, Bari, Puglia, Italy
Death
16 Sep 1969 Camden, Camden, New Jersey, USA
Residence
1940 Camden, Camden, New Jersey, Italy


Giuseppe De Angelis
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957

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Name: Giuseppe De Angelis
Arrival date: 7 Dec 1913
Birth Date: abt 1897
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: vill s sebrot
Age: 16
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Sant Anna


Children:

Frances DiAngelo
1918–1980

Michael DiAngelo
1921–1922

Mildred DiAngelo
1923–1975

Domenica DiAngelo
1926–1979

Rita DiAngelo
1930–2014

Jean Diangelo
1931–2000


Joseph DiAngelo
1935–2003

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FAMILY TREE:

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/90655472/pe...

Owner of Tree:

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https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/90655472/family

Re: Need help with my great grandfather, Joseph DiAngelo, Camden New Jersey.

Posted: 1541308080000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1541308967000
You may want to question some of the dates you’re working with. For one thing, I’m struck by the fact that the Feb birthdate, when flipped from American to European format, looks somewhat similar to the Dec birthdate (I.e., 2/12 becomes 12/2 and then perhaps 12/21.

Second, US records seem to point to an earlier birthdate than Dec 1897, and he may have altered his birth year in any case. His WWI draft registration says he was born in 1894. Here’s a candidate for his birth record, with father Michele (which sounds a bit like Nicola in Italian):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9G-WMZ2

And here’s the family in the 1930 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X485-WPK

And in 1920:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4P1-B43

If you can locate his marriage record in NJ, it should have his parents’ names on it.

Steve

Re: Need help with my great grandfather, Joseph DiAngelo, Camden New Jersey.

Posted: 1541329563000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1541348701000
Another possible arrived of Joseph ??? ...

On page one of the manifest above his info on line 8 it looks like he was naturalized 12/9/37 - the other numbers recorded are 3 142317. It does look his father's name might be Michele ???

Giuseppe De Angelis in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957

Name: Giuseppe De Angelis
Arrival date: 25 May 1913
Birth Date: abt 1895
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: corata
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Italian
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: St Paul

Page One ...
https://www.ancestry.ca/interactive/7488/NYT715_2086-0091?pi...

Page Two - see post after this one -by sbny357 ...
https://www.ancestry.ca/interactive/7488/NYT715_2086-0091?pi...

Re: Need help with my great grandfather, Joseph DiAngelo, Camden New Jersey.

Posted: 1541339143000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1541340713000
I think you’re off by one line. This record says Giuseppe is visiting his cousin Francesco de Angelis at 40 Mulberry St. in New York. It certainly appears to be the same Giuseppe who was born in Corato in 1894.

And the person two lines above him, Francesco Redda, is going to visit the same person. And Redda’s contact in Italy is his wife Rito [Rita?] de Angelis. Perhaps the Rita whose name was remembered as Giuseppe ‘s mother was actually his sister.

Steve

Re: Need help with my great grandfather, Joseph DiAngelo, Camden New Jersey.

Posted: 1541361700000
Classification: Query
They married in 1916.

The 1930 census states Anna was 15 when she 1st married. This matches what the marriage has.

They are on page 255. This the brides index.

Grasso, Anna - DeAngelis, Giusep 08511 16

https://www.accessgenealogy.com/vr/njm-index-brides-1915-191...

Re: Need help with my great grandfather, Joseph DiAngelo, Camden New Jersey.

Posted: 1541376247000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1541376622000
Yes, thank you Steve. It was thought that his sister and his mother's name was Rita. Turns out, Rita actually was his sister's name. I asked one of my realtive's who was around when Rita immigrated here and it really was Joseph's sister's name. Perhaps they were... cousins? (Francesco and Joseph on the manifest) I've never heard of anyone named Francesco in our family. Maybe I wasn't asking around much

-Minnie.

Re: Need help with my great grandfather, Joseph DiAngelo, Camden New Jersey.

Posted: 1541388302000
Classification: Query
Is this right family?
Name: Joseph Di Angelus
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1920: Camden Ward 5, Camden, New Jersey
Street: Walnut Street
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1911
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Native Tongue: Italian
Able to Speak English: No
Occupation: Labourer
Industry: Factory
Employment Field: Wage or Salary
Naturalization Status: Alien
Able to Read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Rocco Pellogrino 26
Lucy Pellogrino 19
Franco Pellogrino 3
Joseph Pellogrino 0
Joseph Di Angelus 24
Anna Di Angelus 18 NJ Italy Italy
Francis Di Angelus 1 NJ

This looks like the same family with misspelling of the name

Name: Joseph Di Antreas
[Joseph Di Anteau]
Birth Year: abt 1896
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Camden, Camden, New Jersey, USA
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Spruce
Ward of City: 5th
Block: 244
House Number: 315
Dwelling Number: 203
Family Number: 205
Home Owned or Rented: Rented
Home Value: 25
Radio Set: No
Lives on Farm: No
Age at First Marriage: 21
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Language Spoken: Italian
Immigration Year: 1915
Naturalization: First Papers
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Proprietor
Industry: Junk Dealer
Class of Worker: Working on own account
Employment: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Di Antreas 34
Anna Di Antreas 28 NJ [15 @ 1st marriage]
Frances Di Antreas 11
Mildred Di Antreas 7
Dena Di Antreas 4
Antonett Di Antreas 2
Reta Di Antreas 0
John Garidisi 19 Italy; guest

His 1942 Draft Reg ...b 12-21-1892 and he signed it...Giusseppe DE ANGELIS
Do you have his death certificate? Obit? I would think someone in the family knows his birthplace???

Is this your Anna?
Name Anna Grasso
Event Type Birth
Event Date 1902
Event Place New Jersey, United States
Parent Name Paul Grasso
Parent 2 Name D Grasso [Domenica?]
Page Number 38416
Citing this Record
"New Jersey, Reclaim the Records, New Jersey Birth Index, 1901-1903," database, FamilySearch

Re: Need help with my great grandfather, Joseph DiAngelo, Camden New Jersey.

Posted: 1541390684000
Classification: Query
Yes, that’s him, his wife Anna and his oldest born daughter, Frances. He was born in Corato, Bari, Italy. If you go to my tree the obituary is there. Thanks for your help.
-Minnie.
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