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Researching Irish immigrants in early 1850s

Researching Irish immigrants in early 1850s

Posted: 1511225532000
Classification: Immigration
Surnames: McElwee
As an Aussie, I'm new to research in US records. I'm interested in the following, who I think went back to Ireland by 1855 then emigrated to Australia.

1. Would the original NARA records provide more information?
2. Is there a way to find out where they lived and how they earned a living while in the US for those few years?
3. Would there be a record of them leaving the US?

New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals Transcription
First name(s) Eliza
Last name McElwee
Sex Female
Age 16
Birth year 1835
Occupation Spinster
Departure port Belfast
Departure country Great Britain
Destination port New York
Destination state New York
Arrival year 1851
Arrival date 03-Oct-1851
Ship name Mary Anna
NARA publication number M237

If this is the right Eliza McElwee, she was a dressmaker later in life.

New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals Transcription
First name(s) Sarah
Last name McGee (possibly mistranscribed McElwee)
Sex Female
Age 22
Birth year 1829
Occupation Spinster
Departure port Belfast
Departure country Great Britain
Destination port New York
Destination state New York
Arrival year 1851
Arrival date 03-Oct-1851
Ship name Mary Anna
NARA publication number M237

Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1948 Transcription
First name(s) William
Last name Mcelwee
Sex Male
Age 25
Birth year 1826
Birth country Ireland
Arrival year 1851
Arrival city Philadelphia
Arrival state Pennsylvania
Arrival country United States
Ship name Austria
NARA publication number M360
NARA roll number 93

If this is the right William McElwee, he was a blacksmith/nail-maker in Ireland.

Thanks,

Penny in Melbourne, Australia

Re: Researching Irish immigrants in early 1850s

Posted: 1511233131000
Classification: Query
1) Copies of the passenger lists are available on FamilySearch.org, so you can review them to see if they have more info than the transcription. But for that time period, there probably won't be much more than what the transcription shows.
2) Since they arrived and left in between censuses, the next best source of occupation info would be the city directory for wherever they were living. The availability of city directories is kind of spotty prior to 1861, but Ancestry.com has copies of most of them. The city directories generally only list the head of household.
3) No. Passenger lists were not required for leaving the U.S.

Steve

Re: Researching Irish immigrants in early 1850s

Posted: 1511484748000
Classification: Query
the WIlliam Mcelwee age 25 on the vessel Austria is with a Sarah McElwee also age 25
it may be McElwen

Re: Researching Irish immigrants in early 1850s

Posted: 1511515500000
Classification: Query
Who are the parents of William and Eliza?

Re: Researching Irish immigrants in early 1850s

Posted: 1511566035000
Classification: Query
Surnames: McElwee
Thanks everyone for trying to help. The family I'm interested in are:

Charles MCELWEE Born: c 1798 Died: 13 Jan 1872 Pound Lane, Newtown Limavady, DRY, Ireland Occupation: Nailer
+Anne (Nancy) MCGILL Born: c 1797 Died: 16 Dec 1882 Isle of Man Street, Limavady, DRY, Ireland
Children:
..... Thomas MCELWEE Born 1: 07 Dec 1823 Drumachose, DRY Born 2: 1826 Died: 08 Feb 1900 Protestant Street, Limavady, DRY Occupation: Nailer, Smith
..... William MCELWEE Born: 16 Apr 1826 Drumachose, Newtown Limavady, DRY, IRE Died: 18 Jun 1882 Gisborne, VIC Occupation: Blacksmith, Station master
..... Sarah (Sally) Jane MCELWEE Born: Bef. 11 Mar 1830 Drumachose, Newtown Limavady, DRY Died: 01 Apr 1921 Parkes, NSW
..... Eliza MCELWEE Born: Bef. 11 Nov 1832 Drumachose, Newtown Limavady, DRY Baptism: 11 Nov 1832 Drumachose, Newtown Limavady, DRY Died: 28 Nov 1913 Park Street, Ballarat, VIC Occupation: Hotelkeeper, Dealer in second-hand clothes, Dressmaker, Greengrocer, Fancy goods. Eliza married four times and each time making herself a bit younger, like her husbands!
..... John James MCELWEE Born 1: Bef. 16 Jul 1836 Drumachose, DRY Born 2: c 1841 Drumachose, DRY, IRE Died: 30 Dec 1871 Lancefield road Station, VIC Burial: 31 Dec 1871 Sunbury, VIC Occupation: Publican

South Australia, passenger lists 1847-1886 Transcription

First name(s) Eliza
Last name McElwee
Age 22
Birth year 1834
Occupation Domestic Servant
Place of origin Derry
Ship name Fitzjames
Departure date -
Departure port Southampton
Arrival year 1856
Arrival date 1 Jan 1856
Arrival port Adelaide
State South Australia
Country Australia

First name(s) Sarah
Last name McElwee
Age 25
Birth year -
Occupation Dom Servt
Place of origin Derry
Ship name Fitzjames
Departure date -
Departure port -
Arrival year 1856
Arrival date 1 Jan 1856
Arrival port Adelaide
State South Australia
Country Australia

Victoria Coastal Passenger Lists 1852-1924

First name(s) Eliza
Last name McElwee
Sex Female
Age 21
Birth year 1835
Year 1856-57
Ship name Havilah
Departure year 1856
Departure date 28 Jul 1856
Departure port Adelaide
Arrival year -
Arrival port Melbourne
State Victoria
Country Australia

First name(s) Sarah
Last name McElwee
Sex Female
Age 23
Birth year 1833
Year 1856-57
Ship name Havilah
Departure year 1856
Departure date 28 Jul 1856
Departure port Adelaide
Arrival year -
Arrival port Melbourne
State Victoria
Country Australia

At least one of their relatives travelled back and forth between New York and Limavady in the 1890s.

Re: Researching Irish immigrants in early 1850s

Posted: 1511568140000
Classification: Query
Surnames: McElwee
Thanks Steve,

That's great advice about checking FamilySearch. I've now downloaded the 6 pages (images 61- 66 of 752) of the passenger list for the Mary Ann, which arrived 3 Oct 1851.

The images have been transcribed, but I can't find Eliza or Sarah in either the transcription or the actual images.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1849782

What I have learned is that the images don't have much more than the transcription, so can't help with confirming if they are my family.

No luck with searching city directories so far either, but that may be because it's too early and they weren't had of a household.

Penny

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