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mtDNA - Results Haplogroup - H4a1a

mtDNA - Results Haplogroup - H4a1a

Posted: 1334451989000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1334507204000
mtDNA - Results
Haplogroup - H4a1a

I have 15 full sequence mtDNA matches at FTDNA. I and two others seem to have Norwegian origin DNA origins. However, most others seem to be English or Irish. I wonder if anybody has any ideas about it's geographical evolution?

Re: mtDNA - Results Haplogroup - H4a1a

Posted: 1334475166000
Classification: Query
The age of H4a1a, i.e. when it split from H4a1, was estimated as 7385 years, with a standard deviation of 1647.4, in the recent paper: Behar, et al. (2012), "A 'Copernican' Reassessment of the Human Mitochondrial DNA Tree from its Root" (available online for free at http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%2812%2900146-2). So it's much older than any independent identities of Norwegian, English, or Irish.

Re: mtDNA - Results Haplogroup - H4a1a

Posted: 1334476806000
Classification: Query
Thanks, that is goo0d information. I should show it to others who are concerned about the geographic origins of their mtDNA haplogroup.

Re: mtDNA - Results Haplogroup - H4a1a

Posted: 1337515012000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1337522422000
Surnames: Chapel
Hi - According to first 23andMe and then Lick's analysis, I am a mt Haplogroup H4a1a4b. I can trace my female ancestry back to an Alice Chapel, born in 1685 in Wrawby, Lincolnshire. This is not too far from the Humber estuary. Nothing further back, alas.

Re: mtDNA - Results Haplogroup - H4a1a

Posted: 1361132115000
Classification: Query
The National Genographic Geno 2.0 test identified my Hg as H4a1a4b, as well. My paper trail stops at Kate Schuh, daughter of Marie, born 1876 in Darmstadt, Germany. Have any of you learned about interesting research into the H4a1a subclade?

Re: mtDNA - Results Haplogroup - H4a1a

Posted: 1361134492000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Chappel
As mentioned, I can trace my H4a1a4b to northern Lincolnshire in 1685. Two things - that area was largely Danegeld, so likely came from Frisian or Angle roots. Second, this is a very rare subgroup, which makes it even harder. I went through the existing literature looking for associations with archeological dna testing, and did not find any matches, as of six months ago.

Re: mtDNA - Results Haplogroup - H4a1a

Posted: 1381814157000
Classification: Query
When did H4a1 split off from H4a? I got a test at 23andme and it gave me H4a1.

Re: mtDNA - Results Haplogroup - H4a1a

Posted: 1381826382000
Classification: Query
Estimated at 8637 years ago (SD = 1559). The list of estimates for all known subclades is in the Supplemental Data of the paper I linked.
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