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Botkin goldmine of info

Botkin goldmine of info

Maureen Braun (View posts)
Posted: 957213614000
Hi all,
I have this family tree passed on to me with loads of names and dates!
It begins with Charles Botkin b.1738 in Northern Ireland. He and a
brother, George, came to America with the forces of General Braddock
to fight in the French and Indian War. George escaped into the interior. In 1777,
Charles Botkin aka Bodkin enlisted in Capt. David Scott's Co. of the Ninth Virginia
Regiment. He fought under General George Washington at Valley Forge. His batallion was sent to Carlyle to guard the Hessian troops. While on guard duty he met and fell in love with Jemima Karl and they were married when the war was over.
Major Issac Karl, Jemima's father, changed the family name to Curl.
The Botkin and Curl families resided in the Virginias until about 1809 when Charles immigrated to Sinking River Valley, North-east of the present town of Springfield, Ohio.
The children of Charles and Jemima are all listed in this tree with dates of birth and death.

There are other branches followed especially that of Simon Botkin, my g-g-grandfather. He was born on Oct 1st,1842 in Morgan Co, Ohio.He was a Civil War veteran Company H,19th.Iowa Volunteer Infantry.
Pioneered to Sumner County Kansas, were he homesteaded Sept.1st,1870 and married another pioneer,Almira Gilliland
I have all of this info with details...they had 6 kids, one of which was my great grandmother,Cora May, whom died when I was a child.

I'll be happy to help if I can!

Maureen Braun

Botkin--Message for Maureen Braun

Posted: 957535925000
Edited: 1028249051000
I think you contacted me about Simon Botkin, but
I had never heard that name in our stories.
However, I read your goldmine info and saw
something intriguing. Your Simon married a
Almira Gilliland, and my ggrandfather Charles
married Clara Alice Gilliland in Texas. This
would have been on January 1, 1899, since my
grandmother, Ollie Lee Botkin Ingram was born
December 7, 1899. Odd coincidence. Mom says
the Botkins came to Texas in a wagon train "from
Illinois." The Botkin grandmother with them
supposedly died in route, and was buried by
a river; no one knows where.

botkin research

kimberly crowder (View posts)
Posted: 960129217000
i'm looking for dora botkin.m. arlie smith. child (i know of) born in ILL. name: lawrence. know anything of her?

Charles Botkin

Posted: 960441232000
Edited: 993211307000
I think we found a link. I have a Charles Jefferson Botkin that married a Clara Gilliland in Texas. Charlie was the son of Thomas Jefferson Botkin who married Amanda Webster who was younger than him. Thomas was the son of Thomas Botkin of VA. born about 1811. This is al I have on the Thomas Botkin side.



Ann Marshall-Levine (View posts)
Posted: 963502665000
I am looking for the ancestors of John R.
Botkin who was born in Pickaway County, Ohio
between 1812 and 1816, and died in Ross
County on December 25, 1865. He married
first, Sophie or Sophelia Littleton on Dec.
31, 1835 and second, Jane Lucas on
August 17, 1851. John R. Botkin and Jane
Lucas were my ggreat grandparents.

I have not been able to find out who John
R. Botkin's parents were. I have read
Gerald Botkins "Bodkin/Botkin Family in
America" and I know the story about the
Botkin brothers from Ireland but cannot
connect to any Botkins before John as yet. I
have searched records at the Circleville
Genealogy Library and the Pickaaway County
Courthouse (not all records as yet) but so
far, no luck.

Any ideas or help would be appreciated.

Reply to Gilliland-Botkin message

Posted: 963779740000
Edited: 994592645000
Where did you get this information about Charlie Botkin's mother dying on the way to Texas? We had always heard that she died in Illinois along with Amanda Webster, Thomas Jefferson's wife, before they left? Charlie, Thomas Jefferson, and Jackson Washington Botkin came first with the other following later. Please reply to (Janie Botkin)

Amanda Webster Botkin

Posted: 963779962000
Edited: 994592645000
Let me clafiry. Amanda Webster, wife of Thomas Jefferson Botkin and mother of Thomas Allen and Charles, died in East St. Louis, Illinios (about 1878) and is buried somewhere near there. Again, I really would like to know exactly what your mother told you. Thanks - Janie Botkin

Richard Botkin of Morgan county VA 1700's

Beatrice Blake` (View posts)
Posted: 964300957000
Dear Maureen,
I'm the GGGgranddaughter of Richard Botkin, born in Morgan County, VA, moved to Hamilton County Ohio in 1803 and to Shelby County OH in 1832 where he founded Botkins, Ohio. Do you have information on Richard?
Thanks, Beatrice Blake

Botkin goldmine of info

Mark Allen (View posts)
Posted: 965922052000

Most of the history you have listed for Charles Botkin 1738-1820 has been proven to be incorrect. The stories you mentioned were handed done over the years and are historically false. I have what can be documented and would be glad to share. Contact me directly at and
I'll expand. Anyone else with ties to Charles is welcome to contact me as well.

Mark Allen

Botkin and Fitzgerald's

Posted: 966081904000
Edited: 1027865550000
Do you have information pertaining to the Fitzgerald lineage becoming the Botkin lineage? I know about the baudekin sword, but after Thomas, son of Richard Fitzgerald, got the name of Botkin/Bodkin, I am missing a link or links.
I have Maurice Fitzgerald had Thomas, who had Richard, who had Thomas (Bodkin). Then I have a gap. The next Bodkin that I have is Richard, b. 1710. Do you have any insight to who comes between Thomas Bodkin and Richard Bodkin?
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