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Joseph Arnold 1838-1910 St. Clements

Joseph Arnold 1838-1910 St. Clements

Posted: 1541944243000
Classification: Query
Surnames: arnold, lobsinger
Hello,
I recently bought a house in St. Clements and its history is a bit of a mystery. I recently learned that a Joseph Arnold (1838-1910) may have built it. He was married to Louisa Lobsinger (1843-1915).

Does anyone have any history about this man? Census data shows he was a farmer. I am struggling to find much history about St. Clements at all.

Any info on Joseph or pictures of the main street from the late 1890s would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Re: Joseph ARNOLD 1838-1910 St. Clements

Posted: 1542239028000
Classification: Query
Surnames: ARNOLD, LOBSINGER
Find a Grave There are 6 ARNOLD burials at the following Cemetery
Joseph Arnold
Birth 9 Sep 1838
Death 24 Nov 1910 (aged 72)
Burial Saint Clements Roman Catholic Cemetery
Saint-Clements, Waterloo Regional Municipality, Ontario, Canada

Louisa Lobsinger Arnold
Birth 8 Apr 1842
Death 23 Jun 1915 (aged 73)
Burial Saint Clements Roman Catholic Cemetery
Saint-Clements, Waterloo Regional Municipality, Ontario, Canada

Church Records could prove helpful.

The following may be able to assist you
https://www.wellesleyhistory.org/
Contact the Public Library - for the area - they may hold info re the history.
City Archive - Archive for the area - may hold information - photographs etc Land records etc
Provincial Archive - may hold some information

Re: Joseph Arnold 1838-1910 St. Clements

Posted: 1542276954000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1542296930000
Surnames: Gehl, Lobsinger, Waechter, Foerster, Arnold, Danzer, Dantzer, Schmitt, Huck, Schuetler,
From an old post - here is an exact date of birth for Joseph ...
Catherine (Katherina) Gehl married Jean Louis Lobsinger
Replies: 13
Re: Gehl
Chris Bowman (View posts)
Posted: 10 Oct 2006 07:49PM
Classification: Query
Surnames: Gehl, Lobsinger, Waechter, Foerster
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/localities.northam.canada....

iii. MARIA LOUISA LOBSINGER 5, b. April 07, 1842, Waterloo County Ontario 5; d. June 23, 1915; m. JOSEPH ARNOLD 5; b. September 09, 1838, Waterloo County Ontario 5; d. November 1910.

Notes for MARIA LOUISA LOBSINGER:
Witnesses to the baptism were Joseph Willy and Maria Huck.

Notes for JOSEPH ARNOLD:
sponsors at baptism - Peter Danzer and Magdalena Schmitt

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Then I found a tree on ancestry that list his parents - posting as a guide only.
Owner: marysykes60
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/100944983/p...

Lorenz Arnold
BIRTH 4 OCTOBER 1810 • Kuelsheim, Main-Tauber-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
DEATH 27 NOVEMBER 1890 • Waterloo, Ontario, Canada

Barbara Schuetler
BIRTH 27 APR 1818 • , Bavaria, Germany
DEATH 2 MAY 1898 • South Easthope, Perth, Ontario, Canada

Children:

John Arnold
1836–1867

Joseph Arnold
1839–1910

Magdalen Arnold
1840–1923

Margaret Arnold
1840–

child Arnold
1841–

Louis Arnold
1843–1922

Lawrence Arnold
1845–1923

Philip Arnold
1847–1926

Justine Arnold
1850–1922

Anna Arnold
1856–1856

Henry Arnold
1856–1923

Henry Arnold
1857–

Mary Arnold
1861–1951

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Lorenz Arnold in the Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1946

Name: Lorenz Arnold
Gender: Male
Age: 80
Birth Date: abt 1810
Birth Place: Germany
Death Date: 27 Nov 1890
Death Place: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Religion: Roman Catholic
Cause of Death: Old Age

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/8946/ONMS935_59-0267?pi...

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St Agatha's Cemetery, Waterloo County , ON
Community: St Agatha
Township: Wilmot Township (SER, Lot 7)
Locality: Waterloo County
Municipality: Wilmot
Province: ON
GPS: 43.43383,-80.62832
Registered to R.C.E.C. of Diocese of Hamilton.
http://geneofun.on.ca/cems/ON/ONWAT14228

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Find A Grave ...

Justinea Arnold Dantzer
BIRTH 26 Sep 1849
Stratford, Perth County, Ontario, Canada
DEATH 12 Mar 1922 (aged 72)
Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, USA
BURIAL
Mount Hope Cemetery (Kitchener-Waterloo)
Kitchener, Waterloo Regional Municipality, Ontario, Canada
PLOT Kitchener Side (along Grand Ave, near the South East corner)
MEMORIAL ID 134144785
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/134144785

Justinea was a daughter of Lorenz Arnold (1810-1890) and Barbara Schleuter (1818-1898).

She married Lorentz Peter Dantzer around 1870.

1881 census of South Easthope Twp;
1891 census of Wilmot Twp;
1901 census of Berlin, Waterloo County.
1911 census of Berlin, Waterloo County.

Justinea gave birth to 11 known children.
1. William Dantzer 1870-
2. Anna Dantzer (Dietrich) 1872-1916.
3. Louisa Dantzer 1874-1904.
4. Adeline Dantzer 1876-1882.
5. Peter Philip Dantzer 1878-1947.
6. Rosemary "Rosie" Dantzer 1880-1965.
7. Emma Dantzer 1882-1967.
8. Alexander Lorenz Dantzer 1884-1923.
9. Rev.Charles Alfred Dantzer 1886-1925.
10. Henry Hubert Dantzer 1889-1957.
11. Harry Dantzer 1892-1927.

Justinea's Death Age was calculated at 72 years, 5 months and 14 days.

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Joseph's family in 1861 ...

Joseph Arnold in the 1861 Census of Canada

Name: Joseph Arnold
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Year: 1839
Birthplace: Canada West
Marital Status: Single
Home in 1861: South Easthope, Perth, Canada West
Religion: Catholic
Film Number: C-1064-1065
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Arnold 22

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1570/4391951_00412?pid=...

Re: Joseph Arnold 1838-1910 St. Clements

Posted: 1542278577000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1542297048000
Surnames: Arnold, Schettler, Lobsinger, Weaver
Lorenz Arnold[1, 2]
Male Abt 1813 - Yes, date unknown

Barbara Schettler[1, 2]
Female Abt 1813 - Yes, date unknown

http://generations.regionofwaterloo.ca/getperson.php?personI...

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BUCHEL 1861 census on308 page 009 line 25 @ca.on. perth_county. easthope_south_township section 1 film C1064 lds0349311
https://www.ogs.on.ca/ogspi_pages/6ab/c6buc002.htm

25 ARNOLD Lawrence m 48 Germany RC yeoman married
26 ARNOLD {SCHETTLER} Barbara f 43 Germany RC married
linked as maiden name SCHETTLER Barbara
married during the year 1836 according to 1861 census
ARNOLD Lorenz 62 and wife Barbara 53 Easthope South Township 1871 census district 029g1 family 169
ARNOLD Lorenz 71 and wife Barbara 63 Easthope South Township 1881 census district 171e1 family 0109
ARNOLD Barbara 72 widow Easthope_South Township 1891 census district 104c1 family 112
27 ARNOLD Joseph m 22 Ont RC yeoman
ARNOLD Joseph married LOBSINGER Louisa d/o LOBSINGER Joseph and wife WEAVER Mary
ARNOLD Louise 18 with parents Easthope North Township 1861 census on307 page 001 line 29
ARNOLD Joseph 32 and wife Louisa 28 Easthope_North Township 1871 census district 030d4 family 010
ARNOLD Joseph 42 and wife Louisa 38 Easthope_North Township 1881 census district 172d1 family 0152
18 ARNOLD {LOBSINGER} Louisa f 28 Ont RC German married
linked as maiden name LOBSINGER Louisa
d/o LOBSINGER Joseph and wife WEAVER Mary
LOBSINGER Louise 18 with parents EasthopeNorth Township 1861 census on307 page 001 line 29
28 ARNOLD Louis m 18 Ont RC farm labourer
ARNOLD Lui 28 Easthope South Township 1871 census district 029g1 family 094
29 ARNOLD Lawrence m 16 Ont RC farm labourer
ARNOLD Lawrence married Jan 1870 to BUCHEL Mary aka BUCKEL Mary
ARNOLD Lorenz 26 and wife Mary 21 Easthope South Township 1871 census district 029g1 family 093
ARNOLD Lorenz 36 and wife Mary 34 Easthope South Township 1881 census district 171e1 family 0106
ARNOLD Lorenz 46 and wife Mary 42 Easthope_South Township 1891 census district 104c1 family 163
ARNOLD Lorentz 56 and wife Mary 51 Easthope South Township 1901 census district 101c1 family 061
30 ARNOLD Philip m 14 Ont RC
ARNOLD Philip 23 with parents Easthope South Township 1871 census district 029g1 family 169
31 ARNOLD Justine f 12 Ont RC
32 ARNOLD Henry m 5 Ont RC
ARNOLD Henry 14 with parents Easthope South Township 1871 census district 029g1 family 169
33 ARNOLD Mary f 1 Ont RC
ARNOLD Mary 11 with parents Easthope South Township 1871 census district 029g1 family 169
ARNOLD Mary 21 with parents Easthope South Township 1881 census district 171e1 family 0109
ARNOLD Mary married HARTLIEB Arnold

Re: Joseph Arnold 1838-1910 St. Clements

Posted: 1542280316000
Classification: Query
St. Clements
Previous Name: St. Alphonse
https://www.waterlooregionmuseum.ca/en/collections-and-resea...

The village of St. Clements in Wellesley Township is located at the present-day intersection of Lobsinger Line and Herrgott Road. An area of early Roman Catholic settlement by German immigrants from Alsace Lorraine, its first church was built in 1840, first named St. Alphonsus and after 1852, St. Clement's. The village's post office was established in 1853. Plans for the village site were drawn in 1857, 1860 and 1861. The Sisters of Notre Dame taught the Separate School from 1876. Other village amenities served the surrounding farm community, which today has many Mennonite farms.

Re: Joseph Arnold 1838-1910 St. Clements

Posted: 1549644750000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1549725715000
Surnames: Arnold, Thoman, Schickler, Uberschlag, Bruxer, Buchell, Weber, Thomann, Studer, Danzer
Laurentic-Lorenz Arnold {abt 1809-1890} might have arrived in New York August 20th 1834 on the ship Natchez and shortly afterwards married Barbara Thoman/Schickler? {1818-1898} and settled in South Easthope Township. According to the 1861 South Easthope census they were married in 1836. Some children were John {1837-1867}{Cecilia Uberschlag}, Joseph {1838-1910 in St. Clements} {Maria L. Lobsinger}, Magdalena {1840}{John Weber}, Louis {1843-1922 in Kitchener} {Agatha Bruxer}, Lorenz {about 1845-1923 in New Hamburg} {Mary Buchel}, Philip {1847} {Justina Weber} Justina Elizabeth {1849} and Maria Anna {1852}. All were born in Canada between 1837-1852. NOTE: Agatha Schickler,
sister of Adolph {before she married Jos. Thomann} is the mother of Barbara Schickler, wife of Lorentz Arnold. There is an Adolph Schickler {1755-1827} and wife Catharine Studer{1758} who have an Agatha born in 1793 in Traubach-le-Haut. This Agatha has a Barbara born in 1818 in Traubach. Perhaps Adolph Schickler {abt 1799} is a brother to Agatha? Adolph Schickler and Catharine Studer also have a John {Jean} born in 1788. Perhaps this is John Schuttler/Schickler who settled in Puslinch Township. Note: A Christina Arnold married Laurent Danzer. Christine is likely a daughter of Laurent Arnold.

Re: Joseph Arnold 1838-1910 St. Clements

Posted: 1549646477000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1549725863000
Surnames: Lobsinger, Weber, Gehl, Mayer, Emmel, Busch, Weiler, Uberschlag, Martini
Joseph Lobsinger {1804-1891} and wife Maria Anna Weber {about 1807-1893} of Langatte, Mossell, France arrived in New York March 25th 1837 on the ship Utica with three children, Louis {Catharine Gehl} of Bruce County, Peter {Maria Mayer} of Bruce County and Joseph {Josephina Emmel} of Michigan and perhaps an older and younger sibling of Joseph Lobsinger, Michael, age 28, and Anthony, age 18. There is also an 18 year-old Nicholas Busch on the ship. Joseph and family settled in North Easthope Township, Perth County by 1851 where Anthony {Agnes Weiler} of Bruce County, Paul {Catharine} of Carondelet, St. Louis, Missouri and McLean Township, Illinois, Maria Anna Louisa {Joseph Arnold} and George {Maria Anna Uberschlag}. Magdalena Lobsinger {Corneilius Weiler} of Bruce County, might also be a daughter. I believe Michael Lobsinger {abt 1810} went to Bellville, Illinois, USA and then to Carondelet, St. Louis, Missouri. Perhaps Joseph’s younger brother, Anthony {abt. 1820}, also went to Bellville, Illinois. Note: Anthony Weber, husband of Elizabeth Martini, is likely a relation of Maria Anna Lobsinger, nee Weber.
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