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wilkes co. surnames

Posted: 966513600000
Classification: Query
Edited: 994046158000

there is a very interesting and informative book out entitled--melungeons examining an appalachian legend by pat spurlock elder. it gives some data on wilkes co. it also gives migratory routes for most families coming to southwestern areas--areas along new river and yadkin r, the area known as state of franklin. it gives some origins of surnames that i see on this query board. regards

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Joyce Joines Newman (View posts)
Posted: 966600000000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Joines, Goins, Brock
I had a question about the urls in my previous message about Melungeons in Wilkes County. I tried both and they work fine here from here, but here they are again:

info on Melungeons:

warning about Melungeon research:

These are copied and pasted from the browser, so they should work. Good luck.

Melungeons in Wilkes County

Joyce Joines Newman (View posts)
Posted: 966600000000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Joines, Goins
The term Melungeon refers to a small group of communities that have been viewed as tri-racial isolates--those POSSIBLY having mixed white, African, and Indian genetic components. Serious scientific studies of them have been conducted for years--one might consult the Journal of Physical Anthropology for example.

A summary of current general knowledge is at:

In recent years there has been an attempt to do revisionist genealogy research that claims that the terms "Black Dutch" and "Black Irish" refer to people of mixed blood, based on the erroneous assumption that the word "black" was used historically in the same way that it came to be used popularly in the 1960s as a description of skin color.

In my own family, the Brocks were said to have been Black Dutch (the German word for German is "Deutsch"). They are blonde, blue-eyed, and fair skinned. They lived in the Moravian Falls area with many other families of German descent like the Coons and Sloops and Bebbers. In the 1970s I once looked up the term Black Dutch in a German history book and found it was a term used to describe one faction in a historic political conflict, much like the War of the Roses in England with its Red Rose of Lancaster and White Rose of York.

The term Black Irish has been used for many years to distinguish Irish peoples with black hair (probably Celtic or Pictish origin) from those with blonde (Scandianavian or Anglo-Saxon influence), although they often also had blue eyes and fair skin.

This is not to say there were not people of mixed blood in Wilkes. Many families intermarried with Indians (especially Cherokee), including my own forbears the Joineses (there is no evidence that the Joines family in Wilkes is connected to the Melungeon Goins surname). The Cherokee women were Merediths (Meardiths) from Roan Mountain, Tennessee. More rarely there are people of mixed African and white descent, often bearing the surnames of the (infrequent in Wilkes) former slave owners. The Melungeons are a fascinating group of people, but merely having white and Indian or African antecedents does not make one Melungeon.

In the rush to claim many surnames as Melungeon (and by implication assign those Wilkes County settlers to African, Indian, Portuguese, Spanish, Jewish, or whatever descent), common sense is often left behind. I mean no disrespect to people with any of these heritages by saying that genealogical research and historic assertions should be sound. Mere visual observation would often call such assumptions into question. Pat Spurlock Elder herself has spoken on the pitfalls of Melungeon research and warned against inventing results:

Melungeons History

Ruth Boyd (View posts)
Posted: 970401600000
Classification: Query
The following is the text of an article by Rufus B. Myers in Volume II of the "Heritage of Ashe County North Carolina" :

According to the "Coalfield Progress," of Wise County, Virginia, when the first European adventurers reached the Appalachian Mountains in the 1600s and 1700s, they stumbled upon small settlements of people of North African descent. These people were located in the mountains of Southwest Virginia, Northeast Tennessee, Eastern Kentucky, Western North Carolina and parts of South Carolina. Prior to 1763, the lands west of the Blue Ridge were claimed by France, and the French were well acquainted with North Africans or "Moors." The French, as well as John Sevier, who became the first Governor of Tennessee, announced their discovery of Moors in Western North Carolina and in territory which became Tennessee. The Cherokees permitted these non-aggressive, dark-skinned people to co-exist peacefully on Cherokee land, no doubt giving the Indians wrong ideas about the aggressive European settlers, who arrived later.
The North Carolina Indians told the first English settlers about these people who lived in cabins, and who at the regular ringing of a bell, would fall to their knees in a certain direction and pray, indicating an Islamic custom. In contrast, these people did not call themselves Moors, but rather they thought of themselves as Portuguese or "Melungeons."
As time went on, many of these people were labeled as "free persons of color." They couldn't vote, or go to school, and their property rights were not protected by the courts. Pushed off their land, they moved further into the mountains, to farm rough and inaccessible land that their lighter- skinned neighbors didn't want. They were shunned because they looked different, and they were called "Ramps" or "Frenches." They lived in dirt floor shacks.
How did these people arrive in the Appalachian Mountains? This puzzle of genealogy was recently solved by N. Brent Kennedy, partially of Melungeon descent, who is a native of Wise County, Virginia, now living in Atlanta. His fascinating article entitled "The Melungeon Mystery Solved" appeared in the July/August, 1992, edition of "Blue Ridge Country."
A turning point in Melungeon history starts in the year 710 A.D. They came to Portugal and Spain as conquering invaders from Morocco, and they stayed in Spain and Portugal for about 500 years. According to an article in the "Winston-Salem Journal" of May 17th, 1993, "Melungeon" is a Berber word for "white people." The Berbers were a Caucasian, often blue-eyed people of Morocco who, it is said, claimed to be surviving descendants of a mid-Atlantic civilization that sunk beneath the sea. Melungeons were descendants of the ancient Phoenicians and Carthagenians. The Moors were surprisingly lax on their conquered foe, even allowing them to openly practice Christianity. Then, around 1200 A.D., the Moors were ousted by Spanish warriors. About 500,000 Moors chose to remain behind in Spain and Portugal. At that time, they were known as Mudejars or "tamed" Moors. They did their best to blend in with their neighbors. They kept a low profile, and they practiced Islam only in the home. They lived that way for 300 years.
In 1502, the Spanish Inquisition began, with the blessing of religious leaders, The Moors were forced to become Christians. After that, they were known as "Moriscos." The Inquisition became more severe, and in 1582 thousands of Moors, including some of the recently converted, were strangled with iron collars and burned alive at the stake. Finally the Church gave the Moriscos an opportunity to leave, but they couldn't go to other Christian countries, which excluded Europe, and they couldn't go back to their ancestral homeland in North Africa. Officially, they could go to India, and a few other scattered locations, such as the New World.
The Moriscos began to show up in South Carolina around 1580. They established four permanent New World settlement or forts perhaps 30 years before the English established their colony in Jamestown. Then they were driven west by English and French settlers. It was probably several hundred men, women and children who made their way inland, eventually settling in the mountains of Western North Carolina, and what is now East Tennessee.
Much has been said in Wise County about the Melungeon clannishness. A 16th Century Islamic creed prohibited Muslims from living more than two miles from a city center, and it was impossible for a Muslim to marry outside of his or her faith. So the Moriscos in the New World lived in clannish isolation in villages of no less than 12 families.
Over the centuries, in the New World, these Melungeons eventually intermarried with their European neighbors, however their Mediterranean look and strange family background have always been a mystery, until now. They took such Anglo-Saxon surnames as: Mullins, Roberson, Phipps, Osborn, Reeves, Kennedy and Hall. A clue to the family heritage is that Spanish or Portuguese given names keep popping up in Melungeon families, such as Louisa, Lucinda, Helena, Lillian, Mahala, Eulaylia, Alonso, Sylvester and Canara. Kennedy's research indicates that most of his English ancestors seemed to originate from the mountains of Western North Carolina.
Mr. Kennedy tells us that modern, scientific DNA testing proves that the Melungeons in the New World were a combination of Portuguese, Spanish, Berber, Arab, Jewish, black and American Indian. The history of the Melungeons was studied by a Portuguese film crew that spent four days in Wise County in 1992. In addition to Wise County, Virginia, Melungeons are found today in Hancock County (Sneedville), Tennessee.
Brent Kennedy's mother, Nancy Kennedy, tells the story about her grandfather and his brothers who were denied the right to vote in Virginia. They went to the polls with guns and forced the officials to let them vote.
From the book "1799, North Carolina's Northwest Frontier," by Rufus Myers. Copyright 1993 Rufus Myers. Sources are given in the text.

-Rufus B. Myers

Joins in Wilkes Co.

Ruth Boyd (View posts)
Posted: 970401600000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Joins, Bauguess
Do you have any information on a Mary "Polly" Joins, b. Jan 20, 1833; m. Richard "Dicky" Bauguess. They lived in Piney Creek, Alleghany Co., NC. Her father's name was Ezekial Joins.

Bauguess Family

Posted: 973512000000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1030923148000
Hey there... Do you remember me ?? I hope you are doing well.. We sort of lost touch... my computer died & I lost all my addresses. I hope your Father is doing well, I always enjoyed sharing messages with him...
Since our last discussion, I found a 2 Vol book set on the Bauguess family & I have talked to one of the authors. The books are wonderful & answer so many of the questions that we had. The copies of old wills are interesting ( not to mention the handwriting), there are maps, some pictures & the family names are listed for each generation. I bought Vol 1 and have enjoyed it & learned so much about the family. I paid $39.00 for it and it's worth every penny. The Bauguess family is a very old Virginia planter family with lands near Mt. Vernon. The direct generations to Richard Bauguess are as follows.
Robert Boggess, Henry, Henry, Henry, then Richard in Wilkes Co. NC.

Re: Melungeons in Wilkes County

Posted: 1018287336000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1027037322000
If anyone had said I was a Melungeon, I would have thought they were making it up. But I have found the case to be in fact I am of Melungeon heritage. My son Ivan inherited a very rare disorder of Mediterranean origin (Meleda Disease). Where did it come from? My family has the asian eyefold and we are often asked if we are Oriental and a few other characteristics common amoung the Melungeon.

Are we Wilkes kin?

Posted: 1020227906000
Classification: Query
My mother's dad was a Gentle, her mother was a Joines, and her mother was a Brock. Of the Reiny Wootson Brocks.
Are we kin? Denise Duncan Snow

Re: Melungeons in Wilkes County

Posted: 1020564217000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1043465418000
Surnames: absher, Adams, caudill, Sebastian, Stamper, Kennedy, Hall, Hincher, Rhodes, Tyre, Elledge, Jennings, Porter, Pardue, Hammon, Brown, Pilgrim,Hays, Carroll, Shumate, Grimes, wood, Carter, Burton, Green, etc.
I would like to know more about this disease. Also, I have a cousin named Debbie Absher. Are you by any chance Johnny's daughter? I would love to trade info with you.

peggy smith

Re: Melungeons in Wilkes County

Posted: 1020573221000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1092385439000
My grandfather told my mom that her mother's people were Black Dutch, which usually means Melungeon. Her surnames are Wright, Smith, Powell, Martin/Martain, Dowthitte, Jobe and Moreland.

My Wm Dowthitt (d 1799) 1st m Sarah Jobe, 2nd m Susanna Harper (no proof) and 3rd m Zelpha Fentor/Foster.

Any connections ?
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