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Arthur Charters 1911 census

Arthur Charters 1911 census

Posted: 1251278400000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Charters Phipps
Just for info. 16 Tuiline Street Shoreditch
Head Arthur Charters age 47 widow married 23 years three children one alive two dead. wood carver born London nationality British.
Alfred Charters son 18 single wood carver born London British
Arthur Charters married Emma Phipps sep 1886 Arthur I believe is the son of John Kendal Charters. On 1911 census John Kendal Charters living at 20 Waverley Road Park Lane Tottenham with his wife Clara. Married 51 years 13 children 12 alive 1 dead.
pensioned chair maker born hoxton shoreditch and Clara born Clerkenwell . I also have info on Francis (Frank) and Clara Charters their children on 1911 census if anyone is interested

Re: Arthur Charters 1911 census

Posted: 1322804100000
Classification: Query
Surnames: charters kelly
Dear Margaret
I believe Arthur Charters married my Great Grandmother Annetta Kelly.
My mother spoke fondly of her Step-Grandfather Arthur. We still have some of the furniture that he made.

Re: Arthur Charters 1911 census

Posted: 1325980451000
Classification: Query
Thank you for your reply . We hadn't realised that he was married to my grandmothers sister and then after the birth of their first child they were divorced. I know that Arthur was in Cologne for a while as he sent my grandmother a postcard. He was in the second battalion of the Scots Guards.
I am so glad that after his divorce he found love and lived a happy life.
Regards Maggie

Re: Arthur Charters 1911 census

Posted: 1325987337000
Classification: Query
Many thanks for your reply. I'm rather confused. On my great grandmothers Annetta's marriage cert. to Arthur ,which I have the org. it states that he was a widower living in St Peter's Street Bethnal Green. Arthur's son Alfie was I thought his only child my grandmother also called Annetta was very fond of him. I think he may of been killed in action during the war although I could be wrong on that point. I still have the wardrobe that Arthur carved as part of Annetta's wedding gifts. Hope this helps.

Re: Arthur Charters 1911 census

Posted: 1327164964000
Classification: Query
hi sorry to have taken so long to reply to your message. When was Arthur married to Annette ? Was it after 1919? My Arthur Charters was married in 1917 to Florence Hayward and had a son called Henry in 1918 but then filed for divorce inn 1919. This you can read on the National Archives under divorce court file 3792. I think I may have a couple of the certificates as someone sent them to me but I am not sure that my son didn't delete them when he was changing the computer. If I find them I will let you know
REgards maggie

Re: Arthur Charters 1911 census

Posted: 1327167797000
Classification: Query
Hi I knew I would get in a muddle its a good job you questioned my e mail .
That last message should read about Alfred marrying Florence. Alfred was Arthurs son and if I am correct Alfred would have been a widow when he married Annette.
regards Maggie

Re: Arthur Charters 1911 census

Posted: 1327617475000
Classification: Query
Hi Margaret, I'm just looking at my Great grandmothers org wedding cert.

October 1917 Arthur Charters 53 widower wood carver 32 St Peters St Bethnal Green father John Kendall deceased Chair Manufacturer' Is this your Arthur?
Hopes this helps Annetta

Re: Arthur Charters 1911 census

Posted: 1328048510000
Classification: Query
Yes I think it could well be

Re: Arthur Charters 1911 census

Posted: 1328130591000
Classification: Query
so do I. Where does the divorce come from? I am sure his son was called Alfie. Sadly my darling Mum died recently so i'm not able to ask her.

Re: Arthur Charters 1911 census

Posted: 1329826449000
Classification: Query
i am really sorry that I confused you his son Alfred (possible Alfie) divorced his wife Florence. Arthurs wife died as he was therefore a widow when he remarried
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