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Brick Wall: Eugene Young 1920 - 2003

Brick Wall: Eugene Young 1920 - 2003

Posted: 1348329546000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1348403930000
Surnames: Young, Schmidt
ive been researching my mother side of the family and i ran into a big road block. My grandfather was born out of wed-lock, but was given his fathers last name. His mother never changed her name. The big issue im coming across is i cant find anything on his mother and only an obituary on my G-father. Does anyone have any suggestions for searching?

the info i do have is this:
Eugene Young sr. B. July 13, 1920 D. Aug. 31, 2003
his mother was(as confirmed in the family bible):
Lillian Schmidt B. ? D. 1924-1925 (only know that she died when he was 4)

Re: Brick Wall: Eugene Young 1920 - 2003

Posted: 1348422387000
Classification: Query
First off, Eugene Young 1920 - 2003, does not appear in the US Social Security death index. Was he born in USA ? Where did he live ?

I do find a Lillian Christine Schmidt who died in 1923.

name: Lillian Christine Schmidt
gender: Female
burial date: 27 May 1923
burial place:
death date: 25 May 1923
death place: Pleasant Valley Twp., Bettendorf, Scott, Iowa
age: 28
birth date: 09 Oct 1894
birthplace: Davenport, Scott, Iowa
occupation: Clerk
race: White
marital status: Single
spouse's name:
father's name: Henry F. Schmidt
father's birthplace: Germany
mother's name: Margaret Umland
mother's birthplace: Germany
indexing project (batch) number: B86949-1
system origin: Iowa-EASy
source film number: 1480949
reference number: p. 255 #3054
Citing this Record
"Iowa, Deaths and Burials, 1850-1990," index, FamilySearch (

Re: Brick Wall: Eugene Young 1920 - 2003

Posted: 1348492234000
Classification: Query
sorry i forgot to mention the location. he was born in Md. and she was either Md. or Pa.
I know where they are both buried and still cant find anything. Her father was born in France and named Louis.

Re: Brick Wall: Eugene Young 1920 - 2003

Posted: 1348510512000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1348532071000
What exactly is it that you are looking for?

A death certificate should have the names of parents, etc. Have you tried to get a copy?

All you need to do is go the website for the state of death and there you will find instructions on what you need to get a copy.

Do be aware that this information is only as good as the informant so there can be errors.

You could also try the funeral home that took care of the burial. Since they are responsible for submitting information for obituaries and death certificates they may also have this information.

Good Luck in your research.



Re: Brick Wall: Eugene Young 1920 - 2003

Posted: 1348551252000
Classification: Query

I do not find Eugene in 1940 census. He is living with his grandfather "Louis Schmitt" in Baltimore in 1930 census who had no daughter who went by the name of Lillian. Schmitt does not seem to be a French name but of German origin.

Louis Scmitt/Schmidt's wife was named Mary and she was born in Pennsylvania. She also died before 1930. Keep in mind obituaries can have wrong information.

Louis' and Mary's daughters were:
Annie M Schmitt/Schmidt born MD abt 1900,
Louise M in France 02 March 1902 married Clayton Shue.
Mary born in France about 1903, - this daughter not in the 1920 household
Elizabeth born in MD abt 1905
and Margaret born MD abt 1907 who was not in the 1920 census then a brother Gerard J Schmitt born in MD 22 Feb 1914 who died in Baltimore Sept 1983.

There also a cousin of Eugene's named Louis Hoffman born MD abt 1917 whose mother was one of the sisters born in France and I don't think he was Louise's son. I think Louis's mother was Mary Schmitt. The 1930 census says mother of Eugene was born in MD so I'm thinking it was Annie M Schmitt who was Eugene's mother. Louis Hoffman not found after 1920 census.

Sorry, have no clue who father of Eugene Young was.

name: Clayton Shue
event: Draft Registration
event date: 1942
event place: 4418 Glenmore Ave Raspeburg, Baltimore Co, Maryland
gender: Male
birth date: 02 Jan 1891 Carroll Co MD
nara publication title: World War II Draft Cards (4th Registration) for the State of Maryland
nara publication number: M1939
arc identifier: 563727
film number: 2243509
digital folder number: 004133526
image number: 00301
"United States, World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942," index and images, FamilySearch (

Name: Clayton Shue
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1957
Street Address: 18 Walcott (address in 1937 was 4418 Glenmore Ave)
Residence Place: Baltimore, Maryland
Occupation: Repr
Spouse: Louise M Shue
Publication Title: Baltimore, Maryland, City Directory, 1957

first name: Louise
middle name: M
last name: Shue
name suffix:
birth date: 2 March 1902
social security number: 218-01-5091
place of issuance: Maryland
last residence:
zip code of last residence:
death date: 26 June 1991
estimated age at death: 89

1940; Census Place: Kenwood, Baltimore, Maryland; Roll: T627_1506; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 3-99.
4418 Glenmore Ave, same house in 1930 & 1935
Clayton Shuse (Shue) 46 born MD 02 Jan 1891 lived in Carroll Co MD in 1900 parents Andrew C and Emma J. Shue born in Pennsylvania.
wife Louise M Schmitt 38 born France
son Vernon P Shuse 14 MD 1926 lived in Jacksonville, Duval Co FL in 1945 was in the US Navy wife named Lillian who was 18 b. MD abt 1927. Vernon P Shue b. 14 Jul 1925 known to have lived in Baltimore in 1992 at 4717 Ridgeway Ave 21206.
son Melvin C Shuse (Shue) 11 MD born 17 May 1929 died in Baltimore 06 Sept 2009
dtr Betty Jane Shuse 7 MD 1933
Louis Schmitt 71 France father in law
Gerard J Schmitt 25 MD brother in law

event date: 04 April 1930
event place: Election District 14, Baltimore, Maryland
head Louis Schmitt M age 62 born France abt 1868 widowed arrived US appx 1898 stated to be naturalized citizen occupation cook in restaurant lived at 4418 Glenmore Ave said he owned his home and had a radio
son-in-law Clayton Shue M 38 Maryland abt 1892 was 32 when he married radio repairman
daughter Louise Shue F 28 France abt 1902 . . .does not match father's year of arrival being 1898 if she was born in France abt 1902 also says her mother was born Pennsylvania. It appears that Louis and wife Mary returned to France for a few years then came back to Maryland.
grandson Laurence Shue M 9 Maryland 1920 do not find him in 1940 census
grandson Vernon Shue M 4 Maryland 1926
grandson Melvin Shue M 1 Maryland 1929
son Gerard Schmitt M 16 Maryland abot 1914 mother born in Pennsylvania
grandson Eugene Young M 9 Maryland father and mother born Maryland . . .was born after the 1920 census will be 10 yrs old in July 1930.

Name: Louis Smidt claimed to be single and mentions a niece Mrs. Trese? ? ? in Pittsburg PA
Arrival Date: 16 Aug 1924
Birth Year: abt 1861
Birth Location: France
Birth Location Other: berybielen
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: French
Port of Departure: Le Havre
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Paris

This one is typed
Name: Louis Schmitt
Arrival Date: 6 Nov 1928
Birth Year: abt 1861
Birth Location: France
Birth Location Other: bergbieken city (appears to be same as above)
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: French
Port of Departure: Boulogne Sur Mer
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Minnesota
Occupation: restaurant man, could read french and english his immigration visa # non quota was issued in Strasburg 23 Oct 1928 listed last permanent address as PA
1928; ; Microfilm Serial: T715; Microfilm Roll: T715_4378; Line: 1; ; Page Number: 12.
Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M237, 675 rolls); Records of the U.S. Customs Service, Record Group 36; National Archives, Washington, D.C.

07 JANUARY 1920; Census Place: Baltimore Ward 6, Baltimore (Independent City), Maryland; Roll: T625_660; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 70; Image: 814.
self Louis Schmitt M 51y France arrived 1895 cook at lunchroom
wife Mary F Schmitt F 49y Pennsylvania parents born USA
dau Annie M Schmitt F 20y Maryland 1900 single operator / clothing factory
dau Louisa M Schmitt F 17y Maryland 1903 operator / clothing factory
dau Elizabeth Schmitt F 16y Maryland 1904
son Gerard J Schmitt M 5y Maryland 1915
grandson Louis Hoffman M 3y 1m Maryland father born MD mother born France

22 April 1910; Census Place: Baltimore Ward 10, Baltimore (Independent City), Maryland; Roll: T624_556; Page: 13B; Enumeration District: 0152; Image: 355; FHL microfilm: 1374569.
Louis Schmidt age 41 born France married 12 years arrived 1895 cook at hotel
Mary Schmidt 39 born Pennsylvania did not know where her parents were born she bore 7 children 5 are living
Annie Schmidt 10 born Maryland 1900
Mary Schmidt 9 born France 1901
Louisa Schmidt 8 born France 1902
Elizabeth Schmidt 5 born Maryland 1905
Margaret Schmidt 3 born Maryland 1907

The Schmitt's/Scmidt's not found in 1900 census. Baltimore directory in 1899 finds a Louis Schmitt living at 930 N Central Ave who was a cook.

Try the website for records. Try the Baltimore county board to see if anyone can do marriage and death search.

Name of Deceased: Melvin C. Shue
Death Date: 6 Sep 2009
Obituary Date: 7 Sep 2009
Newspaper Title: Baltimore Sun
Newspaper Location: Baltimore, MD, USA
Spouse's Name: Barbara J. Shue
Childrens' Names: Karen Griffith, Tammy Harris, and Jeffrey Shue
Siblings' Names: Betty Culver and Pete Shue
Number of Grandchildren: 5
Number of Great-grandchildren: 9

Good Luck !

Re: Brick Wall: Eugene Young 1920 - 2003

Posted: 1348577403000
Classification: Query
thanks for assistance. i was able to track down the 1930s census. But thats the only info ive been able to find. Ive checked the funeral home he was at and the cemetery hes buried at, but still cant find anything. im planning on driving out there and see if they have any info in their offices.
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