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Thamar Taylor Duke

Thamar Taylor Duke

Posted: 1327640186000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1327683252000
I need information on an ancestor by the name of Thamar Taylor Duke b. 1703 in Brunswick, Virginia and d. Aug. 1737 in Brusnwick, VA. Found on a public story that she was Indian and found on Google that she might be full-blooded Saponi Indian. She married William Raleigh Duke b. 1701 d. 1775 in Brunswick, VA. Have several questions about Thamar.

Is she really Indian? If so, then who are her Indian parents? Was she adopted by James Duke and his wife, Mary Byrd? Was either James or Mary Indian? Is the name Thamar a Saponi name and Taylor her English name or is Taylor her last name? If it's her last name, then why is it listed that James and Mary (Byrd) Duke are her parents?

Again, I am trying to find out how the person got the information about Thamar Taylor being a full Saponi Indian. Any answers or information to my questions would be helpful. Thanks.

Laura Martinez

lmartinez65807@yahoo.com

Re: Thamar Taylor Duke

Posted: 1349464193000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Thamar Duke
My name is Bob Upton and Thamar Duke is a distant relative on wilbanks side of family-I do ancestry research and a lady sent me a message on ancestry that Thamar was a Saponi indian from NC--any info is appreciated

Re: Thamar Taylor Duke

Posted: 1363366573000
Classification: Query
Do you know who this lady was? If you have her e-mmail address, I would like to have it because I would like to know where she got her information was? Do you know the name of the lady? I'd like to e-mail her some questions about where she got her information from and where I can find it. Thanks a bunch.

L.Martinez

lmartinez65807@yahoo.com

Re: Thamar Taylor Duke

Posted: 1363376902000
Classification: Query
sorry I don't know who she was--but like you I wonder if she was adopted since there was not much info found-Thanks bob Upton

Re: Thamar Taylor Duke

Posted: 1383964830000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Thamor Duke
Try the website "Searching for Saponitown". You will have to join in order to participate. There are literally thousands of threads. Lots of NC/VA information. It is a little hard to navigate at first but just keep looking around. Very informative and educational.
Marilyn

Re: Thamar Taylor Duke

Posted: 1386169944000
Classification: Query
I am a descendant of this line of Dukes. Thamar/Tamar Taylor's origins are unknown to me. I do not even know how "Taylor" was assigned as her last name. However, I do know that Tamar/Thamar is not a Native American name. It is the name of a river that divides Cornwall from Devon in England. The name appears in a number of unrelated lines in the 1600's and early 1700's in Virginia, perhaps serving as an indicator of ancestry from this region of England.


The relationship to James Duke and Mary Byrd is unproven as far as I know, though members of this family married into prominent families. For example, Tamar Duke, daughter of William Duke and Thamar Taylor, married William Wortham of the prominent Henrico Worthams. This may be irrelevant. However, Nancy Wortham, daughter of William Wortham and Tamar Duke, married William Marshall and had a daughter, Mary "Polly" Green Marshall, who married Spotswood Burwell, grandson of Governor Alexander Spotswood. A connection to the Dukes of James City County and the Byrds of Charles City County is possible -- but still unproven.

Re: Thamar Taylor Duke

Posted: 1514485184000
Classification: Query
All I know is she was from the same tribe/related to Pocahontas, who was a Native American Princess. My great grandmother was a Taylor and she claimed she was Indian because of Thamar. My aunt who knew my great grandmother was told that Thamar was adopted. Thamar was educated in England. She married into a prominent family because of her education. The general population did not get educated until the 1920's unless you were from a prominent family. Prominent families in early America were families that once had titles in Europe. They gave them up because it was part of the deal to cut ties with England. After the Independence, no one wanted to be associated with the "titles of tyranny" image. They still intermarried, hence the criticism of the south. They didn't want to marry someone who can't even read and I am sure the hygiene aspect of the class division back then also made an impression. That's not a real picture of Thamar by the way.
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