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amish/mormon STAKER genealogy

joe staker (View posts)
Posted: 981393741000
IF YOU PRINT THIS OUT IN ITS ENTIRETY, IT WILL MAKE MORE SENSE. IT IS CLUTTERED WITH EXTRA NOTES. I hope this can help someone. These are notes I made in a search for more information about Joseph Staker (b. Germany 1810) and Veronica Roth (b. Alsace-Lorraine 1819). They are buried in Groveland, Illinois, and I hope to pass through there this summer (late July) on a drive from Maine to Washington State. They were my great-great grandparents. The information here is about my Amish line, the Amish line that lived in Ontario-Illnois-Utah and became Mormons, an independent English line in Bridgeport, Connecticut (from 1734), and some miscellaneous notes. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TRADE INFORMATION, PLEASE CONTACT ME AT STAKER@NASB.NAVY.MIL
Good luck geanealogizing Joe Staker



Can Ilinois branch genealogy be traced farther back than Joseph Staker (liveryman, b. 1810)?

There are no significant number of Stakers shown in internet databases (past and present) for Switzerland, France, or Germany. But there is a very well-delineated and large base in Scotland and England, according to, the data base of the Church of Latter Day Saints. (The Anglo-Saxon Stakers originate in Aberdeen in the early 1500s and over the next century apparently spread to the London/Sussex area). Where did the Amish/Mennonite Stakers originate from?

Page numbers refer to A HISTORY OF THE AMISH by Steven M. Nolt.

1711 When Amish migrated into Holland, they were offered land in North Prussia (now the German State of Hesse and Northern Poland) and many migrated there. In 1730 many Amish moved into Hesse.

June 1808 Discussion of universal military conscription encouraged some Amish to emigrate from Europe. In Jan 1809 the church in Lorraine sent representatives to ask Napoleon for freedom from military conscription; in 1811 a military conscription petition to the French government was denied.

In Hesse, “people of non-Amish backgrounds joined the Amish in the early 19th century.” Centers were Waldeck and Wittgenstein (p. 86).

Note: LDS database shows that Baden-Wuerttemburg in Hesse had a large family named Stecher. Many Stechers ended up with the Amish in Pennsylvania. The same database shows a very extensive Staker family in Hesse back to at least 1614.

1817 The Christian Augsberger (1782-1818) family of Hesse scouts land in Ohio. They returned to Europe and enlisted others from Hesse. Christian died in Europe, and the family and friends emigrated to Butler County, Ohio (p. 95).

1822 Christian Nafziger (1776-1836) of Hesse arrived in New Orleans. He walked to Lancaster County, where he was told about good farmland in Ontario. He then went to Ontario. He returned to Europe in 1824, and stopped in England to tell people about the farmland. His family emigrated to Ontario. Later, Nafzigers are prominent in McLean and Tazewell counties.

Note: Bloomington is in McLean County, Morton is in Tazewell County.

1832 The Andreas and Elizabeth Elmon Roth family, who were originally from Central Alsace, leave Ontario and settle in Butler County because of unusually cold winter (p. 102).

P. 104: “Immigrants after 1817 were very often more progressive-minded than their American-born cousins. A group of Hessian Amish arriving in Butler County, Ohio (1832), some of whom later moved to McLean County, Illinois (1837), were especially known for liberal attitudes. The Hessian men wore buttons on their coats, and their families even had pianos in their homes, while their leaders seemed to be quite flexible with manners of doctrine an belief” (p. 136) “Hessian Amish used worldly musical instruments.”

1877 All the Amish congregations in Central Illinois chose change in a liberal direction. Amish Mennonites (Bishop Stuckey of McClean County) were distinguished from Old Order Amish (Bishop Egli) who were also known as Defenseless Mennonites (p. 139).

P. 165 The Elkhart Institute in Indiana, a private high school opened in 1894, had a board of directors made up of four Amish Mennonites and nine Mennonites. While some of the Amish Mennonites were as yet unsure about the school, by 1899 the Indiana-Michigan Amish Mennonite Conference recommended attendance at Elkhart for any youth who aspired to go on in their studies. It was reorganized later as Goshen College. (p. 185)
(Note: Moses Roy Staker attended Elkhart. The Goshen College has a web site with a Mennonite Library collection listed.)

1892 The Hessian Amish Church was renamed the Apostolic Mennonite Church. The Apostolic Mennonite Church joined the General Conference of Mennonite Churches. The largest collection of Amish participants at the conference were Stuckey (liberal) followers (p. 172).

“Within Stuckey’s lifetime female members of his churches stopped wearing their traditional prayer coverings and the dress of the male members became largely indistinguishable from their non-Amish neighbors” (p. 175).

By 1900 no Amish congregations existed in Hesse (p. 181).

In some instances, Amish children remained in the public instruction system, but also attended church-run afternoon “Sunday schools.” Different from their protestant counterparts, these Amish Sunday schools, or “German schools,” taught German reading and writing along with a mix of biblical and doctrinal material (p. 256).
(Note: Anna Maria Fischer taught at a German School).

NICOLAUS ROTH, farmer, b. May 20, 1788 in Aux Gouttes, France, baptised Amish, d. 1834 in Europe. Records at Montbeliard, France church.
M. Veronica (nee Veronique) Zimmerman, b. Dec. 31, 1789, d. April 10, 1878 in Morton IL (Roberts Cemetery).
They had seven children, from 1811 to 1833, all born in Alsace-Lorraine. Fourth was Veronica (nee Veronique but also called Fanny) Roth wife of Joseph Staker, liveryman/farmer.

JOSEPH STAKER, b. 1810 in Germany, liveryman/farmer, d. April 2, 1872, buried in the Defenseless Mennonite Cemetery, Groveland, IL He is listed on the Honor Roll of the Civil War for Groveland Township as 8th Infantry F (
M. Veronica (nee Veronique but also called Fanny) Roth, b. June 3, 1819 in Alsace –Lorraine, baptism in Defenseless Mennonite Church, d. Apr. 20, 1895, buried in Defenseless Mennonite Cemetery, Groveland, IL.
(Note: It is not know if Joseph Staker and Veronica Roth were married in Europe or the U.S. It is likely that they and her mother, Veronica Zimmerman, would have come to the U.S. after the death of Nicolaus Roth in Europe in 1834.)

CHRISTIAN STAKER, b. 1858, Bloomington, IL.
M. Magdalene Ropp, b. about 1862 in Johnson County, IA.

Source of information:
Ms. Gena Fischer
2864 Shenandoa Rd.
Riverside, CA USA 92506


MOSES ROY STAKER, b. Oct. 30, 1884, in Bloomington, d. March 6, 1928, buried in Bloomington.
M. Anna Maria Fischer July 14, 1914; b. Nov. 28, 1891 in Staunton, d. Feb. 10, 1985 in Normal, father Paul Henry Fischer mother Laura Bertha Brass..

James Edward Staker Sr.
William Staker
(Note: According to Moses Roy and Anna’s two children were female. May be confusion with other Moses, next note)

(Note: There was a second Moses Staker in Tazewell County in the same time frame:
Moses Staker m. Katie Belsley,
Lydia Staker, b. 1907 in Morton, Tazewell Co., Ill. D. 1999, m. Clarence Zimmerman in 1928, he died in 1953, she died in Morton in 1999.
Samuel E. Staker, b. 1912 in Morton. d. 1998. Apostolic Christ. Cem, Morton.)



Notes on a Staker family from Hesse who emigrated to the eastern U.S. (in either 1775 or 76) and then to Kingston, Ontario (known as Cataroqui then) well before the Joseph Staker liveryman branch, then moved down to Central Illinois at about the same time Joseph Staker was there:

Henry Staker, b. 1714 in Kassel married in 1738 to Elizabeth Sara Emmons, b. 1718.

Nathan Staker Sr. (#1) son of Henry, b. about 1740 prob. in Kassel, d. in 1780 in Staten Island, NY (also given as about 1815 in Germany).
M. Ann Elizabeth Rapp in Sweden (before 1760 or about 1767). She was probably born in Kassel 1738-1745 and d. May 10, 1808 in Kingston, Ontario.

-- Nathan Jr. (#1), b. June 4, 1768 in Kassel. This is probably the “Nautus Staker” who is listed as a private on the Loyalist muster roll of Capt. Peter Rutton’s Company from Bergen County, NJ, in the 4th Battalion of NJ Volunteers as of July 7, 1779 – per
-- Margaret, b. 1774 in Kassel, but christened March 17, 1776 in Paramus, NJ
-- Henry Hendrick (middle name also given as Heinrich), b. 1780 in Paramus or Kingston, d. 1852 in Canada
-- And Conrad Sr. (next)

Conrad Staker Sr. b. June 4, 1768 in Kassel or b. 1775 in Kingston, Ontario; d. Feb. 21, 1848 in Kingston.
M. Rachael (also found as Rebecca) Cornelia Snook (also found as Schnack) on Feb. 21, 1801. She was b. 1783 in Hillsdale, NY (near Albany).
Hannah b. Sept. 23, 1815 died as infant .
Margaret b. Jan. 23, 1824 in Kingston, d. 1862. m. Lee
Martinus b. Dec. 6, 1803 in Kingston, d. 1873
Mary Cornelia (Polly) b. Aug. 18, 1813 in Kingston, d. 1849, m. Draper
Also Conrad R. and Nathan Sr. (next)

Conrad R. Staker (or Conrad Jr.) b. 1808 in Kingston, Frontenac, Ontario, d. 1873 in Clayton, Adams, Illinois.
Confused marriage records:
m. Elizabeth Rohda (or Rhody) Boyce abt. 1833 in Kingston
m. Rhody Hamilton 4 Jul 1844 in Pike, Ill.
(second marriage also listed as Rhody Boyce)
-- Martha Staker, b. 1838 in Kingston,, m. Nov. 26, 1851 in Pike, Illinois to William Rice
-- Jane Staker b. April 9, 1826 in Kingston, d. 1850. Married Hart and Terry.
-- And Nathan Sr. #2,next.

Nathan Staker Sr. (#2)
b. Nov. 28, 1801 in Kingston, Ontario, d. May 29, 1884 in Mt. Pleasant, Ut.

FIRST WIFE m. Jane Richmond in Pigeon Grove, Iowa or Winter Quarters, Douglas, Neb. April 22, 1848; b. July 23, 1810 in Pickering, Ontario, d. Feb. 11, 1852 in Pigeon Grove, IA.
Jane Richmond’s children:
 John, b. Nov. 5, 1830 in Kingston, d. Feb. 10, 1910.
 William Henry, b. Feb. 20, 1832 in Pickering, d. Dec. 31, 1907 in Salt lake City.
 Sara Jane, b. Jan. 4, 1838 in Pickering, d. Jan. 22, 1865 in Pleasant Grove, UT.
 Alma, b. June 15, 1837 in Kirtland, OH, d. Jan. 14, 1932 in St. Anthony, ID but buried in Lawrence, UT.
 Nathaniel, b. March 25, 1840 in Springfield, IL, d. 1840.
 Nathan Richmond, b. Sept. 1841 Springfield, IL, d. May 18, 1850 in Pegion Grove, IA.
 Aaron, b. Nov. 1, 183, Pickering, d. Aug. 3, 1864 Spring Lake, UT.
 Lydia Margaret, b. Feb. 12, 1848 in Pigeon Grove, IA, d. Jan. 7, 1929.
 Joseph Smith, b. Oct. 7, 1850, Pigion Grove; d. March 3, 1912 Salt Lake City but buried in Annabella UT.

SECOND WIFE m. Eliza Cusworth (nee Burton) Feb. 18, 1857 in Pleasant Grove, UT. She was b. Jan. 19, 1824 in Lockwood, Yorkshire, England, d. April 9, 1914 in Fairview, UT but is buried in Pleasant Grove.
Step children :
 Mary, b. 1829 in Tadlow, England
 Matelder, b. 1831, Tadlow, England
 Elizabeth, b. 1834, Tadlow, England
 Sarah, b. May 20, 1836, Tadlow, England
 Harriet, b. about 1838, Tadlow, England
 Harriet, b. 1847, Tadlow, England
Nathan Sr.’s children:
 James Benjamin, b. Feb., 7, 1858 in Pleasant Grove, d. Feb. 20, 1937 in Mt. Pleasant
 Cornelia, b. Nov. 1859 in Mt. Pleasant, d. 1859 in Pleasant Grove, UT
 Eliza Jane, b. Nov. 17, 1860 in Mt. Pleasant, d. Feb. 7, 1948 in Fairview, UT
 Josephine Phoebe, b. March 11, 1863 in Mt. Pleasant, d. Dec. 11, 1932 in Gridley, CA
 Elizabeth Ellis, b. Feb. 4, 1866 in Mt. Pleasant, d. Sept 4, 1949 in Fairview, UT but buried in Mt. Pleasant.

Note: There is an Aaron Staker who married Kate E. Wagler in Tazewell County on March 20, 1890.
Note: There is a Mary Ann Staker b. Sept. 25, 1830 in Nauvoo, Illinois, but lists her parents as Ebenezer Fairchild and Eleanor Wiggans. She m. Joseph P. Lillis Apr. 7, 1850 in Pike, IL. Joseph Smith taught Mormon beliefs in Nauvoo 1839-1846 before being forced to move west.
Miscellaneous East Coast Stakers:
Samuel, b. 1734 Lyme, CT
Carmelia, b. Nov. 6, 1783 in Tyrone, NY
Eliza, b. 1817 in Philadelphia
Frank, b. 1821, m. 1849 in CT
Lou Ela, b. 1852 in CT
Mary Agnes, b. 1856 in CT
Edward, b. 1858 in CT
“Staker” b. Jan. 20, 1861 in Harmony, NJ
Nettie Bell, b. 1863 in CT
John, b. 1865 in CT (son of Frank)
Elizabeth, b. 1870 CT
Charlotte, b. 1872 Bridgeport
Everette, b. 1878 CT
Note: Civil war casualty: Frank Staker, 18th Indiana Regiment, Beech Grove Cemetery, Delaware County, IND
Note: Native American: Mary Staker, (“of East, Native American”) christened 1789.
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