Lilbirn Edgar Neal is the 4th son of John Wesley Neal. Lilbirn Edgar Neal from Kansas, my great grandfather, my grandmother Hope Lorraine Neal was his daughter, built churches called the "Church of God" from Kansas to Washington, to California. Last completed church was in Delano,CA. Lilbirn was going to build a church somewhere around El Monte, CA before he passed in 1957. Lilbirn was a big man. I used to watch him give a sermon on his porch in El Monte in the summertime, then the tables and food with watermellon would be setup after church. He lived on 2211 Loma Drive in El Monte up against the Rio Hondo River. I remember he would take me to the river and we would catch bull frogs. Take them home and my grandmother Hope would cook them. Later we would catch crawdaddies and then take them home and cook them too.