John - I doubt if 'my' Elizabeth Murray is the same as yours, her middle names of 'Joy' and 'Ann' are not in my family. They strictly followed the traditional naming patterns, so I would have expected to see these names repeated in other relatives. Have you joined the 'Murray' UK surname List? It is only for those with questions dealing with the Murray surname from the UK. It is entirely free, well-mannered, and quite helpful. It is a rather new List, begun in about August, 1999. Send an eMail to MURRAY-UK-Lfirstname.lastname@example.org
and put ONLY the word SUBSCRIBE in the body of the eMail. Nothing more, or you will not be subscribed, this is read by a 'robot', that automatically puts you on the list. You will receive instructions on how to 'unsubscribe'. Each day or so, eMails will arrive in List (L-singly) or Digest (D-more than 1 sent at a time) form. I have learned volumes ! No matches yet, but still hoping. Good Luck !! Meg - Please reply if more information needed.