In a new twist, at the higher levels of ydna testing, our family tester is matching Hartley testers as closely as Holleys. Y67, Y111 and yes, even BigY. In researching the patriarchs of testers at these levels, we find that the Hartleys and Holleys were in Sampson Co, NC at the same time and had land near each other. In fact, the two families were close enough that James Hartley was appointed guardian for William Holley, son of Edward Holley in 1809. Securities were provided by Sherod Holley and Nathan Godwin. This is still related to the Holley family of 1690 VA, but is beginning to refine which families are more likely.
Still looking for clues. Still researching this family.