I believe I heard that same thing from my grandmother's relatives in the Travo area. Do you know exactly where this village is; I am curious. My grandmother who was a Gazzola inherited the family farm somewhere out there when her father Gerolemo Gazzola passed on but then she couldn't keep up with all the taxes the Italian government wanted, so she sold it to a Gazzola cousin out there. Thanks for your tip!!! I believe the village was south of Piacenza. and northeast of Rivergaro.