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Re: george gabe

Posted: 1198933954000
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Jacob Gape welsh bible is with your cousin Graham Gape, Swansea the son of John Jenkins Gape.
William Gape's children Anne 1802 mary 1807 and Harry1807 Cannot trace William 1809 David 1812 Jacob 1817 went to Ystalyfera and the other brothers wenr to Merthyr, John 1815 Rees 1823 and Joseph 1820 remained in Llangathen and father and son kept the inn the Cottage Inn which is there today but not it's original state. All were named with Gabe except Jacob with Gape without the parents being able to write their names, the vicar or curate would spell the surnames which would result in diferent spellings of the name. Therefore all the Ystalyfera sons went with a 'P' and those who then left for work in Llangennnech and then to Pontardulais changed to a 'B' sometime beteween 1891 and 1901 and there was'nt a deed of poll in those days and would have changed the name by going to a solicitor and making the change official or would have just changed the name by signing documents with the 'B'. Ther was one family who left Ystalyfera for Llangennech and one parent died and went back to Ystalyfers as a Gabe. I did now Joe Gape who worked for the NCB and had a few chats with him and the Ystalyfera family aid that they had changed the name for snobbish reason, perhaps has some truth, my mother would say that they could'nt pronounce the name properly in the Bont. Yet all the others were written as Gabe and William's gravestone is down as a 'B'. If you go back further than 1802 an american cousin paid for a commision on the family tree and the result was the family came from Grosmont and the surname was Gabb. Most of the ystalyfera family who I have spoken to think they came from Scotland, which has some merit as the llangathen area is near/in the Earl Cawdor estate. Other stories being Irish, a german bandsman and a slave trader Julius R Gabe.
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