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Abishai Crossman

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Another John Francis Crossman Mayflower line?

Posted: 1231794354000
Classification: Query
Back in February 2006 you said (in part) ...
"I am doing my Crossman line and I have it back to the ' Mayflower' through
John Francis Crossman and the
Evans family then the
Babcock family and then the
Wheeler family and the
William White family of the ' Mayflower '.

I replied by saying ...
"There is a line which seems to accomplish that, at least to the first Wheeler.
(and there IS a Peregreen Wheeler birth in Bolton, which is ALWAYS a good hint)

I wonder if this is the line you have had in
mind (since you haven't shared your line with me).

Here is a line you MIGHT have used.

A Josiah Babcock married an Elizabeth Wheeler
They had a child, David who married an Lydia Walcott.
They had a daughter Lydia Babcock who married Amos Evans
Amos Evans had a daughter Anna M Evans who m John Crossman"

Then I pointed out that the Mayflower society would reject that line
because Amos Evans married Lydfia Babcock 12 years after Anna Evans was born.
Yes Amos Evans married Lydia Babcock, but it was AS SECOND WIFE.
TWELVE YEARS after Anna was born.

It turns out that there is another line which has the potential of being a Mayflower
pedigree for John Francis Crossman.
That line is through Anna's BIRTH mother, Elizabeth. who appears in the 1850 census ...
Amos Evans Bolton, Worcester, MA abt 1816 Massachusetts
Elizabeth Evans Bolton, Worcester, MA abt 1817 Massachusetts
Ann M Evans Bolton, Worcester, MA abt 1848 Massachusetts
Jonas Evans Bolton, Worcester, MA abt 1827 Massachusetts

It is quite possible, certainly plausible maybe even probable that this Elizabeth
was herself a Mayflower descendant (from William White)
As follows ...
There is an 1841 marriage in Worcester Vital Records between an
Amos Evans and an E. Babcock (no parents shown in this marriage record)
This _might_ be the marriage record for the Amos and Elizabeth Evans who show up in the
1850 Bolton census as Anna's apparent parents.

If it is that marriage record, then this Elizabeth Babcock _might_ be the Elizabeth Babcock
(born in Bolton to Josiah Babcock and Elizabeth Wheeler) who was an aunt of Lydia Babcock,
Anna's step mother.

Under this scenario, Amos Evans (would have) married TWO (apparent) Mayflower descendants .
1st Elizabeth Babcock (mother of Anna), 2nd Lydia Babcock, Elizabeth's niece.

It remains necessary to supply adequate evidence that
1) the Amos Evans who married E. Babcock in Worcester was the same Amos Evans
as the one in the 1850 census. (for instance, why was the marriage in Worcester,
rather than in Bolton or Berlin?)
2) E. Babcock (above) was the Elizabeth of the 1850 census.
3) This Elizabeth Babcock is the Elizabeth Babcock who was born in Bolton to
Josiah Babcock and Elizabeth Wheeler (born in Berlin,Worcester,Mass)
This 3 step scenario _assumes_ that it has already been documented that the
Wheelers of Bolton/Berlin are descendants of William White.
(Some of the Wheelers of CONCORD do have a Mayflower White pedigree)
i.e., in Concord, 17 Jul 1672 Obadiah Wheeer m. Elizabeth White (Resolved, William)
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