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Prominent Coopers of Mass, Va, So Car Ga/Ala

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Prominent Coopers of Mass, Va, So Car Ga/Ala

LE Cooper (View posts)
Posted: 966329006000
Here are some emails about prominent Coopers
of Mass, Va, So Car Ga/Ala

Subj: hello- Other Prominent Coopers of So Car/Ga
Date: 8/15/00 11:19:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Blucomm
To: Jenschales

hello jennifer
writing again to say you were not wasting my time
adn it was nice to hear from you

one lament aout the internet is that
via truncated, short messages
they seem abrupt at times

you saw my reply on another screen name (emwecap)
and this note to send that again and also mention
if you email me
copy this screen name too
as i use many screen names ...

Subj: Re: Cooper
Date: 8/14/00 7:50:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: EmWeCap
To: Jenschales

In a message dated 8/14/00 3:59:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Jenschales writes:

Date: 8/14/00 3:59:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Jenschales
To: EmWeCap
My Cooper line is now in central GA,...(see note from her)
Jennifer Cooper Schales

Dear Jennifer
that is interesting history ...

but i think it is not accurate in this way ...

the Thomas Cooper who moved to charleston
some say mar Elizabeth de Haven ... and he and appears to have DIED right away as Eliz Cooper in 1740's
is marrying the local pastor Rev William Guy
(very interesting in that Guy seems a family name in my family)
and then she seems to remar again to a ___ Brasdon

and one of the Thomas Coopers around Charleston then has a son
named Breton ... etc

(seems to be three Thomas at Charleston then OR more)
Dr Thomas Cooper dying a/b 1728 for sure one marrying dau or neice of Gov Wright

Thomas Cooper (probably of Boston who married Eliz de Haven
and then seems to have died young as Eliz ia remarrying again
about 1740

Thomas Cooper a planter nearby to Charleston who has listed slaves of about 50-70
and perhaps others

(OTHER prominent Cooper families esp e.g. John Cooper a merchant
in Charleston ... owning shipping biz with Thomas Middleton
and in biz later with William Glenn who seems to have a descendant
at Glenn , Ga who owned about 10,000 acres at Glenn and that small
cross roads of a town named after him ... and right there also was
my ancestor (Glenn , Ga in Heard Country , Ga)

and a Cooper who mar Dr. John Moultrie- parents of Gen Wm Moultrie of
Rev War ...

Thomas Cooper marrying Margaret Beachamp
seems to be an entirely DIFFERENT PERSON....(from Thomas cooper of Boston)
from memory believe he mar a second time also

I have worked on that for some time and NEVER
figured it out for sure...

getting copies of all land owned by Thomas Cooper's around Charleston, that listing woefully deficient as
it does not list any land for Dr Thomas Cooper above
who had very large land holdings ...and doesnt show what happened to Lord Cooper's huge holdings ...

and some Thomas Cooper family had land in
"Charleston Neck" - 100 or so acres called the "rat's nest"
that area being only few miles to NW of downtown Charleston
(near airport?) back up the peninsula Charleston sits on...

and some say there were ***descendants **locally in Charleston
of Lord Anthony Ashley Cooper one of the 7 proprietors of the Carolina's who were given all that land (of the Carolinas) and then
parcelled it out to others ... and his holdings disappear
as he was the leader of the "cabal" who RAN ENGLAND for many years but then had a falling out, was briefly imprisoned
in the tower of London and then allowed to leave for Amsterdam with a HUGE fortune as he was very rich ... this family later
very much rehabilitated and STILL today a leading English family
as Lord Cooper's-- Earls of Shaftbury ...
Lord Cooper was an endless machiavellian into everything esp making money and very rich and involved with ALL the colonies
(each of the 7 lord proprietors took for themselves besides all the land parcelled out to others a larger , county size piece of land)

and copies of notes by well known
Charleston genealogy researcher who had notes on Coopers...

none of that answered the question....
that question being which Thomas Cooper married who(m) and when etc

e.g. another Thomas Cooper of Charleston at this time was a doctor and married the dau or niece of Gov Wright-
an Elenor Wrgiht for whom he had been appointed as guardian when she was a minor ... This Doctor Thomas Cooper
then died prematurely (circa 1728)
(still in dispute with state of So Car over his wife's larger and huge land ownings) ...
then, his brother Rev Robert Cooper (apparently then still in England
came over and took over his holdings etc. and married (1762) an
Ann Perrineau (perhaps the wealthiest family in Charleston and Charleston families were the wealthiest in the USA at that time)

and on and on- perhaps earliest at charleston area was a Joseph Cooper at
Goose Creek from which another long line of local Cooper's descends and that seems to include the above mentioned
planter Thomas Cooper ...

also locally and perhaps the line from which John Cooper merchant of Charleston comes was an Irish family coming over about 1735 and having 4 brothers and perhaps sisters
(one sister perhaps marrying a Rutledge and parents perhaps fo the later signer of Decl of Indep Edward Rutledge)
and perhaps the line form later comes Col Samuel Cooper who was later in Ga perhaps at near Jasper and Putnam counties
and had with him ??? a William Cooper age 1 in 1820 census prehaps
my gr gr grandfather ???

not to leave out another prominent Cooper who seems to have
larger So Car ties as he OWNED with governor James Hamilton of So Car about 15 plantations and lived at St Simons , Island
Ga , John Couper (with an "u") and from him another John Couper and a Major James Couper later i believe of Atlanta ...

And a Richard Cooper of near Darien , Ga on a larger plantation there
with intermarriages with de Gignilliat family which was a So Car family
(de Gig fmaliy also intermarried with the above Perrineau family)
and that plantation later became known as a Batchelor plantation
but it began earlier as a Cooper plantation ... and that Richard Cooper
was earlier in So Car and left ...

From that Rev Robert Cooper is perhaps my line and it appears UNCONNECTED TO THE MASS Thomas Cooper but that is unclear also ...

So if you have some records to clarify that the Thomas Cooper marrying Margaret Beauchamp was from Boston
I would appreciate to hear about that and get a copy

as the mormon records e.g. DO NOT distinguish between the above 3 apparently different Thomas Cooper's living in Charleston at this early time (1720-1760)

Butch (LE) Cooper

ps and another longer line of Coopers comes from Mass was a Thomas Cooper of Springfield , Mass whose son came to Maryland
and then his descendants into Va and then Ga ... 1st thomas coming over in 1635 to first New Haven, Ct then near Hartford , Ct then to Springfield , Mass building the first church in Mass ... and perhaps
having ties to Boston...(as he appears to have testified in the witchcraft
trials which doesnt make sense if he was living in Springfield ... )
he died in 1675 killed by Indians in Indian uprising called K Phillips war
this fmaily mar into the Anthony family of Va and from them several in Ga and including Mark Anthony Cooper ... a larger business man and ? later congressman

Subj: Re: Cooper
Date: 8/14/00 3:59:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Jenschales
To: EmWeCap

My Cooper line is now in central GA, but I think it started in Mass or So Car...not sure though. This is how I think it goes...

William Cooper b. Browne Candover, Hants, England 1590
m. Cicely ?
their child Thomas Cooper B. London England 1627...
Thomas, the father died in 1698 in Hants, England.

married Mary S. Mary died around 1700 in London.

They had (Capt) Thomas Cooper b. 3 Dec 1657.
her husband died in 1705 at sea en route to England.
Thomas was a sea captain, it seems.
He married Mehitable Minot in Boston, MA 6 Mar 1682-83.
Mehitable was born in Dorchester, Suffolk Co, MA 17 Sept 1668.
She died 23 Sept 1738 in Boston.

She had Thomas Cooper in Boston MA 20 Aug 1705.

This Thomas married Margaret Magdelen Beauchampe in Charleston SC 1728.
They had Andrew Cooper sometime between 1750-1760. Thomas died in SC.

Andrew Cooper married Mildred Cliatt 1783
and they had Thomas Cooper in Charleston SC 26 DEC 1784.
Andrew died in Charleston around 1800.

Thomas Cooper married Susannah Shaw 20 Jan 1806,
the same year their son Joel Madison Cooper was born in Charleston SC.

Thomas was on the land lottery list in 1827 in Jasper Co. GA.
Some reports state that this Thomas was actually born in Richmond GA. Thomas died in Charleston 12 Jan 1868 and Susannah died in Walker Co GA 6 Nov 1874.

Joel Madison Cooper Joel died in Hawkinsville, Pulaski Co, GA.
married Sarah Trammell in Jasper Co GA 7 Aug 1833.
They had several children, among them
Madison Cooper born 1836.
Madison Cooper married twice,
once to Malinda Haynes
and again to Jane Miller.
The marriage to Malinda Haynes produced

Madison Hanes Cooper born 1863.
Madison Hanes Cooper married twice also.
His second marriage produced
my g-grandfather William Vance Cooper.
Hope this helps.
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