Thanks. When I first started this I found on the ship's Passenger List - when Heinrich, Catherine and son Heinrich (Harry) came to US - that they listed an uncle Henri Graf. I just now decided to see what I could find on uncle Henri and HE WAS MARRIED TO CAROLINE BIEBER! My father, Harry, had a sister also named Caroline, who married a John Thurn. We lived next door to the Thurn's when I was growing up. That's it for now. Who is Justin Bieber's father? LOL.