As you know, Wagener is a fairly common name, even here in the USA. I'm researching for a PIERRE, who brought his wufe and children to the US in 1844 aboard the ship "HARRIET". Possibly his brother, MICHEL was also on board with his family. Pierre was born approx. 1791 and Michel was born approx. 1799. If anyone knows of this family, please contact me. I have lot's of names but I'm not sure where to put them, as the first names run through both families and possibly many other families. Thank you for any help you can give me.