Hi Deb and Rhonda,
You two are the absolute best! I honestly never thought I'd even get a reply, let alone the information you've both been able to provide. I owe you both a million times over (even if it has to be diet chocky cake Deb, haha!).
Can I just ask where you are both finding all this information? Especially the death and funeral notices from the newspaper Rhonda. There must be a couple of resources out there that I dont know about and I'd love to get into them to have a forage!
Rhonda, I was starting to look towards SA- I had exhausted Victorian records, and knew they hadn't come from NSW. I checked out Tazzie and drew blanks there too. It was either WA or SA next.
Ok, so it looks like we've had some slighly confusing info- just to clarify for my own sake:
*Dorothy's mother was Caroline Matilda Holtzmann (born abt 1866, died 1929.)
*Dorothy's father was Henry Rule (abt 1856-1913).
*Caroline Matilda Holtzmann's mother was Emma Julia Gunther
and her father was Heinrich (or Henry) Holtzmann.
*Theodore Holtzmann is Caroline's brother.
(so I am therefore presuming that Evelyn, Effie and Mary are Theodore's children- their mother being Mary Ann Newell).
Theodore and Mary also had a daughter named Caroline Matilda Louisa (must have been named after her aunt), who died in Horsham, Vic in 1899, aged 18. Reg # 6080. I think this is where we've had some confusion arise.
Potentially stupid question alert, but going by the names of Caroline's parents I'm inclined to think that they were perhaps German or something similar? In which case i will have to see if I can uncover some immigration details. Now that I know who I'm looking for, the National Archives might unearth something.
Rhonda, what is this Holtzmann book you've got? Im curious now,haha!
God, I'm a total genealogy geek now- it's so addictive!
Thank you both for all of your help, you've unlocked mysteries that have eluded us for too long :)