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Posted: 1268872863000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Tilley, Rowin
Hi Lynette;

My name is Roger Harrer; my wife was born Peggy Tilley in 1943. Her father was Orin Benoni Tilley, son of Luther Augustine Tilley and Leda Myra (Rowin) Tilley.

Olive Rowin’s father Andrew J. Irr (Ire?) was from Germany, born in Loraine about 1825. He died 26 Feb 1899.

Olive and her children are shown in the 1905 Wisconsin Census; no husband is mentioned so he (Orin Le Roy Rowin) may have died prior to that year. Son Dale O. (1900 US Census) is shown as Orin D. The family is found in the 1905 Wisconsin Census under the spelling “Rowen” on

According to the 1930 Census, Olive J. Rowin was living then in Tacoma with her son Norman G. Rowin. She is shown as the head of the family, and Norman is a laborer at a smelter. Norman enlisted in the military in 1942 in Los Angeles, and died 26 Jul 1972 in Lomita, California.

Olive’s daughter Leda Myra Rowin had a daughter Betty, born 28 Oct 1914, in El Paso, Texas. I have no information on Betty’s natural father. Betty married Tom J. Hotchkiss and they had sons Bruce and Malcolm.

Leda then married Luther Augustine Tilley before 1916. She “bought” him out of the army, which was possible at that time. He was about 6 years younger than Leda. Leda and Luther had 5 children: Orin, Lily, Luther Jr., Olive “Peggy” and Carol. Lily died at age 4, possibly of rickets. Orin is the father two daughters: my wife, Peggy (Tilley) Harrer is the younger of the two.

Leda died in 1980 in Herkimer, New York. She lived her latter years in New York with her daughter “Peggy” (Rowin) Bauer. Peggy married John J. “Jack” Bauer, the oldest of about 10 children; Jack’s youngest brother was Henry Albert “Hank” Bauer, who became famous as a major league ball player and manager. Jack and Peggy had children Jay and Carol Marie.

Carol Rowin married J.D. Karnes. My wife Peggy Harrer remembers some of her Karnes cousins, from the 1950’s … We may have some pictures of some of them.

The “Cherokee” heritage … Augustine Tilley (b. 24 Aug 1861)went from Missouri to Oklahoma in one of the Oklahoma land rushes, the Cherokee Strip Rush of 1894. His wife Sarah Jane “Sadie” (Hesseltine) Tilley became sick and died either on the prairie there or back in Missouri. I believe their son Luther Augustine Tilley went to live with an uncle Benoni Tilley back in Missouri, and his two older siblings went to live with the Hesseltine grandparents, also in Missouri. Augustine Tilley remarried a woman named Mary and they had three children, Jewel, Grant, and Daisy, and this family can be found in the 1920 US Census. Anyway, the Cherokee connection may have come about from this history. I have not found any evidence of Cherokee or other Indian blood in the Tilley family, for what it’s worth.

My condolences on your father’s passing. It can also be a shock to realize when parents or grandparents are gone, all the information they had about the family is suddenly gone too, and one then has to find other sources. I didn’t get really interested in genealogy until my folks were no longer there to ask. Anyway, perhaps this will help you find more information.

Roger Harrer
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