Sorry, I have only just picked this up. I am grandaughter of Mary Ritchie, sister of William Herbert. I know a great deal about the family of their mother, Mary Battle after they came to Manchester in the 1820s. I also know a great deal about the Ritchies: my mum is one of the surviving grandchildren of John Charles and Mary and we have lots of photos and documents if you are interested. I know less about the Irish background: Mary Kavanagh (or Cavanagh) and her husband John Battle came to Manchester in the 1820s. Their son Farrell, who was our GG grandfather was already born in Ireland. I know a great deal about Farrell's life and that of his family if you are interested. Could I ask you for the names of your line back to WHR? My mum will be thrilled to hear about you! I have some very nice pictures of the family, including John Charles and Mary's 50th wedding anniversary in 1927. My email is
Look forward to hearing from you.