This is great information, Pat, THANK YOU!!!! Can I ask where/how you found it? The real trouble I'm having is finding information on Rachel herself: parents, birth, death, etc. It seems she just disappears after 1817 with the birth of her daughter, and then Ambrose remarries in 1819. I've been looking for death records in VA & PA thinking she may have died from childbirth, but nothing is turning up. Her daughter, Sarah Virginia Madison, named a few of her children after her husband's side of the family, so I tried using some of their names to search for Rachel's parents, and I've tried Virginia as well, but nothing is coming up... At least nothing that has given me a whole lot of direction. I really appreciate your help!!!! You've given me more info here than I've been able to find in a very long time. Thank you so much!!!!