I appreciate the reply but it appears that the James and Mary Alice that show in CA are different than the ones in Lane County in 1880 with daughter Orpha. James #2 was in Lake Co, CA in 1870 while James #1 was in Lane Co, OR. James and Mary #2 were in Lake Co, CA in 1880. James #2 was still married to Mary Alice (Crabtree) when James #1 married his second wife in Linn Co, OR. It's confusing but I've gone through it many times.