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John H James and orphan placement

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John H James and orphan placement

Posted: 1380921907000
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NY Children’s Aid Society(CAS) records research of our g-gf, Frederick Baker (by Lukas Weinstein and Teresa Bennett, in 2012 and 2013):

Date of entry: July 17, 1866 Age : 4 ½

April 6, 1866 from Munsey, RI
Reference Frederick Baker Vol 417(12) pg 639;
“ Frederick goes west with Mr. Thigpain and living with Capt. J.H. James (Temporary placement). Adjacent records for the date show children going to Urbana, Champaign County OH.”
No info on Mr. Thigpain.

Relative to Munsey, RI, Teresa Bennett noted perhaps Nursery, RI; my thought was it also could be Munsey Railroad;
From Renee Wendinger, 24 Aug 2013:
“Since Children’s Aid had record of your rider, that is the orphanage in which Fred commenced.”
My railroad guy just replied with this: Munsey or Munsey park is a village on Long Island, New York, It is fairly close (about 20 minutes) from Manhattan and as such is, today, one of the high priced housing markets in the New York City area. In 1866 it was just a village far from the center of New York.”

“ Oct 31, 1866 Mr. James writes, somebody said that the boy's mother is with his family and desires the boy be returned and that she may go after the boy and perhaps make a place for herself in the west. This is the only mention of this in our records.”
Uncertain on this comment. Not sure if it implies mother is with John James family, or with Fred kin family.

“ June 12, 1869. John H. James writes that they took him[Frederick] with the intention of finding him a permanent home. Mr. James is a lawyer lives in town and has nothing to keep him(Fredrick) busy. Does not feel he can keep him longer. “
There are a John H James senior and a junior in Urbana, Champaign County Ohio census 1860, 1870 and 1880. Both are attorney’s. The senior believed to be John Hough James(1801/VA-1881/OH; wife Abigail Bailey). The junior believed to be John Henry James(b 1834).
Seems likely that Fred Baker was with John H James for a while before going to County.

April 21, 1870 Capt. John James says that Frederick is with a good family in Preble County OH) “
1870, Sommers Township, Preble County Ohio census:
Samuel Reeve, 43, b OH, farmer
Mary, 36, b NY
Frederick, 8, b NY
1880 Preble County Ohio census:
Samuel Reeve, 53, b OH, parents b NJ/NJ, farmer
wife, Mary A, 46, b NY, parents born NY/PA
friend, Frederick Baker, 17, b NY, parents birthplace not shown, farmer
Geo Butterworth, 76, b England, father-in-law, occupation weaver
Mary Butterworth, 78, b PA, mother-in-law

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