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Re: The Hands/Nicholls kids

Posted: 1359513461000
Classification: Query
Surnames: HANDS & NICHOLLS from Birmingham
Hi Alan

Philip William Hands is my Gt Gt Grandfather, he married Sarah Richards, I have their Marriage Cert, which I think you have seen.

Their son is Joseph Hands my Gt Grandfather. They are all together as a family with their children in 1871, Birmingham. Philip William Hands has his name as William Hands in census, except 1841 & 1881, when he is then Philip William. Just to confuse us!!

Philip William Hands and wife Sarah, part company sometime between 1871 & 1881. 1881 census Philip william is then with Florence nee Nicholls, with more children.

Florence Nicholls died about Jan/Feb 1887, then Phillip William Hands died, 17 July 1887, Queens Hospital, Birmingham, Death Cert states, age 49, a Jeweller, in attendance, his son, W. Hands, who lived Back 103 Arthur Street, Small Heath, Birmingham.

In the 1891 Census, their poor children are in the Childrens Home at Meridan, Coleshill, Birmingham, as you have probably seen.

I have tried to find out a bit about their children, but havn't got very far. I'm sorry but I don't have info on "Bertie" Hands, only have him in 1891 Census. (Is his correct name Alfred)? I have info on his sisters, May Hands, Born 1886 and also Edith Hands, Born 1878. You are welcome to view my Family Tree, I will enter your name, as a guest, to view. How are you connected to the "HANDS Family? May I also view your Tree, please, just enter my Membership name, which is, joanharvey61d, thanks.

Philip William Hands wife, Sarah Hands (nee Richards), makes her way to Shoreditch, Hoxton, London, between 1871/1881. I found her living at 77 Herbert Street, Shoreditch in 1881 Census. (Her name is mistranscribed as Hinds). Their son Joseph Hands (my Gt Grandfather) must follow his Mother to London, sometime after 1881 also. He marries Caroline Manning in 1891, Shoreditch and on his Marriage Cert, his address is given as 77 Herbert Street, Shoreditch, London.

I could not find a marriage for Philip William Hands & Florence Nicholls. He didn't divorce Sarah Richards as far as I know, because, she states in Census 1881 & 1891 that she is married. On her Death Cert, in 1899, Shoreditch, London is states that she is the Widow of William Hands, a Jeweller.

I hope this info is helpful, if you need any more help, let me know.

Best Wishes
Joan Harvey (nee Hands)

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