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Lucy Melvina Brown and James J. Johnson did have a son named Samuel born in Tennessee in 1847. Corroborative documentation is lacking as to whether this is the right person to be my Samuel Thomas Johnson.

Marriages of Lucy's children and Lucy's move to Texas

Some of Lucy's children went to Texas before her: Her eldest, Nancy Syble, married David Crocket Dempsey in 1869, four years after James died. The marriage is recorded in Kaufman County Texas. David was a widower with 2 daughters. Nancy Syble and David Dempsey are on the 1870 census in Kaufman County. We have no 1870 census records of any of the others. The second child to marry was Sarah Elizabeth, who married in 1872 in Kaufman Texas, where Nancy Syble already lived. So two daughters settled in Kaufman County. The third marriage was that of William T in Louisiana in 1875. He remained in Louisiana and is listed in the 1880 census in Sabine Parish with his wife and one year old daughter. The fourth marriage was that of Samuel to Lula Masters in Alabama in 1877. They are shown on the census in Titus County Texas with one child by 1880, not far from Kaufman County. Now 3 of Lucy's children are in East Texas.

At the beginning of 1880, Lucy Melvina was still in Louisiana (Natchitoches) living with 3 of her children: Franklin, Emma and Lony/Leona. Her four other children were all married and 3 were living in Texas, as documented by census reports. William T and his wife and one child were still in Louisiana in Sabine Parish. In 1880, Their daughter Lona, born 1876 had died.

Emma was the 5th child to marry. She was married in September. At the end of 1880, only two children remained unmarried. Lona/Leona/Lony married in 1884, and Franklin B married in 1888. (Franklin was divorced by the 1900 census.)

Lucy Melvina apparently went to Texas after 6 of her children had married rather than going to Texas with her young brood after her husband died. William T's son Sam was born in Texas in January 1888, while his daughter Ethel was born in Louisiana in October 1886. We have no information on exactly where any of them were in 1890, given the destruction by fire of those census records. By 1900, Lucy is living with Frank in Fort Bend County, and William T and his family were living in Trinity County.

Lucy Melvina, Franklin B, William T, and several of William T's children are buried in Glendale Cemetery, Trinity Texas

The Sam who died in 1891 was Ethel's BROTHER, and NOT her Uncle, who would be my great grandfather. My great grandfather was born in 1847 in Tennessee.

Knowing that there was a 3 year old Sam who died in 1891 means that notes of "Sam died young" refer to him and not to my great grandfather, who was born in 1847 in Tennessee.

Darius Quimby Johnson, named after Lucy Melvina's father, Darius Quimby Browne, did die young in Louisiana. He was the #3 child in that family. My Sam, who was number two, did fight in the Civil War. He would have been 16 when he joined, leaving WT the oldest child at home, and the one to look after his mother. MAYBE W.T. resented being left in charge at a young age and did not WANT to keep up with Sam after the war.

Now the other interesting thing that comes up is this - W.T.'s family lived in Madisonville for a number of years, as did Lona and her husband.

Ethel'srecords help to establish when WT, Frank, and Lucy came to Texas. W.T.'s son Sam was born in Madisonville Texas in January 1888. Ethel was born in Louisiana in 1886. Franklin Browne Johnson got married February 19, 1888 but I do not have the place. I imagine it was in Texas.

Now a lot happened to everybody right then:

In 1887, W.T. and Sarah came to Texas, then had a baby in January 1888, and Franklin B got married in February 1888.

Sam and Lula had a baby born in October 1887. In February 1889, Lona and her husband died, and Emma took their 20 month old to raise..

In March 1890, Sam and Lula had a baby who died, and Lula was in and out of the hospital, finally going back into the hospital in December 1890. In January 1891, W.T. and Sarah had a new baby and lost a 3 year old a week later. Meanwhile, my Sam was struggling to take care of 5 little kids who could not understand why their mother did not come home. I think this just might explain the breakdown in communications. Sufficient unto the immediate family were the troubles thereof. And they were not living in the same part of Texas. Then in December 1891, Nancy Syble, the oldest child of Lucy Melvina and James died.

What an ordeal they all went through. In three years the oldest and youngest of Lucy's daughters died, and Lucy lost FOUR grandchildren: Lona's two in 1887-89, Sam's in 1890, and William T's in 1891.


On July 8, 1899 Lucy Melvina applied for a Texas state pension for "Indigent Widows of Confederate Soldiers and Sailors"

In that application she states her date of marriage as 18 March 1844. She also includes information in her application claiming to have lived in Madison County Texas for 33 years. We have evidence to the contrary in census data from Louisiana in 1880.

In another part of the application she says she has been in Texas since March 1, 1880, also in conflict with census datat for 1880.
She signs the application L ille Jhonson. W.T. Johnson is a witness to the application, filed with a county judge.
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