wow . thanks for that !! if i can piece togehter what happened to john would be great.
i think the family you have there are very similar to mine as i kept coming accross those in the research but they are not the same ones
arthur was definatly born in america but came back to england the gravestone is as follows
Born Sunday, December 31 1882
Died Tuesday, May 11 1897
Son of George and Alice
this family went to america in about 1880 - with their children and arthur was born there - they stayed in Amercia for 4 yrs - and then came back - not sure why they came back as life was pretty hard over here for them. If i can find out where arthur was born might be able to find out where they lived and things but no birt was registered in England and the census says he was born in america - but doesnt say where. sadly arthur died at 14 in a coal mine accident.
i cant imagine how these families managed to travel the ocean in the 1880s with kids in tow and they were very poor so how did they afford to go - we dont knwo