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Smith and Payne

Posted: 1169773123000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Smith, Payne
My great grandparents, Robert Morrison Smith and Ethel Gertrude Payne have been a dead end for years until I found both of them on the 1901 Census. I am hoping that someone will know their families.

Payne, Joseph M Widowed b. 30 Oct 1861 England
Payne, Wm M Single b. 12 Jul 1884 England
Payne, Frank J.W. b. 5 Jul 1887 Ont
Payne, Mary b. 24 Apr 1894 Ont
Payne, Ethel G.E. b. 5 Aug 1882 England

Joseph, Wm and Ethel all came to Canada in 1886
This family is in District 118 Toronto West Sub District C-42 Ward 5 (I found the exact address of this household as 392 Sully Street. From current maps this is now Sully Cresent and I looked for a post code for it but the numbers are differant, no longer a 392.)


Smith, Margaret F Widowed b. 28 Dec 1850 Scotland
Smith, Mabel L. F Single b. 7 Jan 1885 Ont
Smith, Mary E. F Single b. 23 Aug 1880 Ont
Smith, Catherine G. F Single b. 8 Oct 1878 Ont
Smith, Robert M. M Single b. 1 Nov 1876 Ont
Smith, Christina F Single b. 4 Nov 1871 Ont

Margaret came to Canada in 1854. (This house's address was 418 Ossington Avenue)

Both families are listed as Baptists.

I have from family tradition that they were married 17 May 1902.

I found Robert's family on the 1881 Census as well:

Robert SMITH M Male Scottish 45 Scotland Brush Maker
Margaret SMITH M Female Scottish 30 Scotland
Christina SMITH Female Scottish 9 Ontario School
Margaret SMITH Female Scottish 7 Ontario School Robert SMITH Male Scottish 4 Ontario
Grace SMITH Female Scottish 2 Ontario
Mary SMITH Female Scottish <1 Born: Aug; 8/12 Ontario

all are listed as Presbyterian here.

They are living in St Stephen's Ward, Toronto. (Not sure where that is in relation to Ossington Ave, would like to know)

Then I found a Robert Smith in the 1871 Index as a brushmaker and presbyterian age 40 born in Scotland. He's in Sub District St Patrick's Ward (C), District Toronto West 046, Division 4 pg. 59. If anyone has access I would love a transcription of this household.

In conclusion If anyone can point me in the right direction to searching for more info on these individuals I would really appreciate it. I am in Australia and most of my research experience is with those living in the United States, so I am unfamiliar with alot of the online resources available for Canada.

Does anyone know where most who migrated from England arrived at in Canada? Especially if they settled in Toronto?

Kind regards,
Shanan Anderson
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