I went back and read my original posting, which I thought was correct. The more recent information regarding the Thole bothers' names and unknown origins is correct. There was a Joahnn Otto who came to Cincinnati, and had some siblings who came too. He was definitely born in Hausette, but at this time there is no established relationship with him that any of the rest of the Thole researchers I know can find. Hope that I havaen't confused you.