Thank you for sending the info about Jacob & Maria Thorne, To me they seam like the right family, I deducted Maria's age & it fits in with her marriage age, this is great. I still don't think the Warrens are the same ones as mine because John Warrens father was still alive when John got married in 1853 but there again Ann is the correct name for his mother & the age for John is about correct, it states that John was a farmers servant in the 1851 census but when he got married in 1853 he was then a railway labourer. Its got Ann as head but it doesn't say anything about her being a widow, could the husband be still alive but not living at that address ? the more I look at it the more I think it could be the same family.
Are these your ansestors too ?
Anyway thank you ever so much for helping me, you have helped a lot by making it a lot clearer for me to trace back further. Thank you Rhian