Talk:World Archives Project: USHMM - Poland, Selected Records of Jews in the Radom District During WWII

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<br>Response to your other concerns:  
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We’re creating indexes of victims and survivors. Random names within correspondence or narratives may not always be victims or survivors. WAP is working in collaboration with USHMM in determining the information collected from these documents. In this collection, it has been determined to only collect information on the primary individual when searching through a block of text for names.  
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We’re creating indexes of victims and survivors. Random names within correspondence or narratives may not always be victims or survivors. AWAP is working in collaboration with USHMM in determining the information collected from these documents. In this collection, it has been determined to only collect information on the primary individual when searching through a block of text for names.  
The images for this collection will be available through the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.  
The images for this collection will be available through the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.  
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Q: And how precisely does one ask for an image without referencing a name? I believe that secondary persons are rarely actually random names, they are frequently family members or associates of the primary person. The chances that such individuals became victims or survivors of the holocaust themselves is high. --[[User:Paulmd199|Paulmd199]] 22:31, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
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A: While not being completely familiar with these records, one might assume that the other names could also be victims or survivors.&nbsp; However, as we work in setting up these projects with the Museum, who is very familiar with these record sets, it has been determined that the primary individual in this collection is the appropriate data to collect.Thank you for you suggestion and we appreciate all your efforts with the World Archvies Project.
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Q: And how precisely does one ask for an image without referencing a name? I believe that secondary persons are rarely actually random names, they are frequently family members or associates of the primary person. The chances that such individuals became victims or survivors of the holocaust themselves is high. --[[User:Paulmd199|Paulmd199]] 22:31, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
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Feel free to add to or edit information in this discussion tab as necessary. Please take time to become familiar with the General Keying Standards and be sure to read all instructions on the main project page. (Please note that in case of a discrepancy, project level instructions always trump general keying standards.)

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Questions and Answers

If you have a keying question that is not answered on the project page or in any of the information above, click “EDIT” and ask it here. (If you click on Rich Editor you won't have to worry about formatting your entry.) Then click “WATCH” at the top right on this page and you will be notified via email when an update has been made.

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The instructions have been edited in this paragraph and should help to avoid confusion about lists created outside of a pre-printed form.


Updated: For records that contain tables or name lists, key each person as a separate record. For other records such as correspondence, biographies, narratives, or other documents that do not consist of pre-printed forms and would otherwise require translating and reading through a block of text, only key the name of the primary individual, which should appear at the top of the page or somewhere near the beginning of the text. Do not worry about keying any other names mentioned in the document, as they may not necessarily be victims or survivors of the Holocaust.

Original: For records such as correspondence, biographies, narratives, or other documents that do not consist of pre-printed forms and would otherwise require translating and reading through a block of text, only key the name of the primary individual, which should appear at the top of the page or somewhere near the beginning of the text. Do not worry about keying any other names mentioned in the document.

I have several problems with it.

1) "Preprinted form" This would say to some that if the form didn't run through a printing press that only one person would be keyed. Many of the documents have tables generated by typewriter or even by hand that are quite easy to extract. And several document types also have lists of names that are also easy to extract.

2) Since you do have to read through bodies of text anyway for letters to be sure of obtaining complete information of the primary person, it is really not saving any effort to omit secondary people mentioned on these documents.

3) The images will not be online. Any name not extracted is lost. This is damaging to the usefulness of the index and is a disservice to researchers.

4) The directions actually add a level of complexity to the project, not simplify it.

--Paulmd199 07:58, 9 June 2011 (UTC)


Response to your other concerns:

We’re creating indexes of victims and survivors. Random names within correspondence or narratives may not always be victims or survivors. AWAP is working in collaboration with USHMM in determining the information collected from these documents. In this collection, it has been determined to only collect information on the primary individual when searching through a block of text for names.

The images for this collection will be available through the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

AWAP Team

Q: And how precisely does one ask for an image without referencing a name? I believe that secondary persons are rarely actually random names, they are frequently family members or associates of the primary person. The chances that such individuals became victims or survivors of the holocaust themselves is high. --Paulmd199 22:31, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

A: While not being completely familiar with these records, one might assume that the other names could also be victims or survivors.  However, as we work in setting up these projects with the Museum, who is very familiar with these record sets, it has been determined that the primary individual in this collection is the appropriate data to collect.Thank you for you suggestion and we appreciate all your efforts with the World Archvies Project.

AWAP Team

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