Talk:World Archives Project: USHMM - Eure-et-Loir, France, Selected Holocaust Records
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Common Keying Errors Found by Reviewers
Place Names - the only punctuation used is either a comma or the hyphen in names like Eure-et-Loir. Often the départment name is shown in brackets after the town, do not key the brackets but separate the town and départment with a comma.
(For reference, you can find a list of départment names here.)
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Q: Hi, I keyed about 4 sets today and one of the sets was a duplicate of one I had done previously. I marked all the pages as duplicates, but since I couldn't go back and look at the original set, I am not 100% sure they were exact duplicates (I am about 99% sure though!). I also realized that I had accidentally keyed a "Mme Renaud" as "Mlle Renaud" in the beginning. So my question is, is there a way to go back and make changes to a set I keyed previously?
- A: There is no way to retrtieve your work once submitted. It will have to be corrected be an arbitrator. Please note that images should only be marked as duplicate if they occur within the same image set.
Q: Hi - name list has a column 'event day/month/year' On this page there are people with more than 1 'event' (arrest dates), do you want me to enter them all?? Suzanne
A: Using the field help for the Document Day will assist in determining which date to use, "If there are multiple documents on an image for the same individual, but they have different document dates, key the most recent date available. If there are multiple documents on an image for different individuals and they have different document dates, or one has a document date and the other doesn't, create a new section for each document by clicking on the "add a new section" icon above the header fields. This will allow you to key a unique document date for each record."
Q: I've come across a few situations where there are several pages of ONE document in my image sets (the pages are not numbered, but by reading the information I can see that it is the same document). On the first page, there is the first name and surname of the person, but on subsequent pages, the first name has been dropped. In this case, would I still insert the first name of the person on the subsequent pages where it is not mentioned? Or do I only key in the information that is seen?
- A: Key as seen in that image only. We are not supposed to transfer information from one image to another.
- --Mitchhollander 23:05, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Q: Are we supposed to be putting in the special characters for names and places for the documents in French?
- A: Yes, I presume you mean the diacritics (ie accents)- these should be inserted as seen in the document (don't add them if they have been omitted and you know the word should have one)
Q: I have two image sets that consist of tallies of internees in the camp. Under the column entitled “Observations” (Notes, I believe) is a list of internees who are absent, either hospitalized or in prison. In most instances, these “notes” are illegible or nearly so. I have been designating these documents as “Cover” sheets. Is this correct? Or should I select “List” and attempt to decipher whatever names I can from the Notes column? ( I e-mailed a screenshot of one of the images to WAP Support for guidance.)
A: (Per Anna, WAP Support): Yes, it should be classified as a Cover page.
Q: a) I have come across a report of a police raid on a cafe that lists everyone in the cafe at the time (and all the food!) so I'm inclined to key this as a list of names rather than a misc record although it is in an individual's dossier and seems that it was his cafe that was raided (this is inference, however). b) Do I key following pages of this report as misc?
A: My 2 cents: I'm inclined to treat this as a list of names too. I can't promise that the arbitrator will agree. --Paulmd199 19:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Q: I am currently keying a list of French "internees" and notice that there are two columns with Date of arrival - one is the first column and the second is column 10. Which one should I use, "if I can read the date on the second one'.
Also Prefectorial en date du .......... is this the date of arrest - it is actually before the date of arrival.
A: If there are two columns labeled "date d'arrivée" use the first date you encounter.
No, do not use the Prefectorial date for the arrest date. Look for a column labeled "Arrete".
Q: I have come across several name lists with a column labeled "Etat Civil" with dates and places. The dates look very much like they would be birth dates, but I have been listing them as event dates because they are not specifically labeled as birth dates. Any advice? --Bigbears6 14:23, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- A: "Etat civil" would translate to marital status. More likely they are marriage dates.
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In the French hand-written miscellaneous documents (e.g., letters), the surname comes first followed by the given name(s) without any comma after the surname. In typed non-form/misc. documents it's the same with the surname in all CAPS followed by the given name. Those not familiar with French names may have trouble differentiating between given and surnames so I suggest that a note about this be added to the project keying instructions for the surname and given name under Miscellaneous Documents.
I have just met an Individual arrest Notice which says that the person concerned is unmarried. However towards the bottom of the page in a section regarding Motives is the fact that he has been living with a named lady for 'more than 10 years' Maybe we need a column for 'partner'?? It seems a shame that this info is lost - Suzanne
Q. Name lists - I have met at least 20 of this page layout. Most pages have the column headers, however I am now meeting pages with exactly the same format but without the column headers. Do I enter - eg - date & place of birth from an unheaded column or only enter where the column is named?? Thanks - Suzanne
A: I want to say if you know what the column headers are fill in as appropriate. I don't know what the Official answer is. --Paulmd199 20:17, 18 June 2012 (UTC)