Talk:World Archives Project: USHMM - Czechoslovakia, Selected Jewish Holocaust Records, 1942-1945
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Extra Keying Helps
žid/a Jew, židé/Jews
Seznam osob v Birkenau, ktarě potvrdily příjem balíčku,
List of persons in Birkenau, which are confirmed receiving the package
Bez stál bydlišté – without fixed abode,
The date of birth and birthplace are usually if the document is in German after the word geb or g.
The place of residence is usually after the word wohnhaft, wohn, wh, w, or zuletzt, zul or zul w.
--Elisabeth power 07:35, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
At present there are lists stating the name, sometimes occupation, date of birth, sometimes place of birth and residence on the left hand side as a block then they mabe up to three columns with written explanation and dates. As in many cases it cannot be obtained what the date is for, key the most recent date as the event date. Ignore "RGBL.I s. 1998. Each person is divided by a horizontal broken line.--Elisabeth power 18:52, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Common Keying Errors Found by Reviewers
Do not key periods/full stop/punkt
keying surname in given field
keying given name into surname field
keying birth place into the residence field
keying resident place into the birth place field
keying the wrong event date. The event date and place is usually at the bottom of a list of names. But if the list spreads over more than the whole set of 3 items it is okay looking at the further documents to see if there is an event date and place. If not use the date the newspaper was published.
The sets contain 3 double pages. Some keyers are only keying one of the double pages, which is only 50% of the total. --Elisabeth power 12:37, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
We do not key adresses for this project only place of residence.
Place of residence is not the same as event place.
the guidelines say to key all given names and middle names. I understand that to include the middle name Sara for females and Israel for males if present on the image.
--Elisabeth power 17:07, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Please take care not to key place of residence into the event place.Any names with addresses should be keyed into the place of residence field. Wohnort in German and ...bydlista in Czech. In czech it sometimes says present residence or last known residence.
Questions and Answers
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My selected record begins on page 2 of an entry so I cannot work out what day the event occurred on. Is it possible for me to be able to access the previous page? Thank you
- A: Just leave the Event Date blank in this situation as data is not carried over from one image to another unless the project instructions say to. --Katerimmer 16:37, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
I've got what appears to be a log of executions with a date in format "23.III.43" (for example), then a number for each person, and three additional columns of information as follows: 1) Name, flight # (sometimes), date (sometimes), location (as in Václav Černý, 40 let, Brno); 2) what they were executed for; 3) date of execution (or rarely, the note "nebyl popraven", i.e., not executed.)
My problem is that I have two dates, sometimes three, and am not sure what to put where. I think I've got a date for the entry, a birthdate (where known), and the execution date. In that case, which should I use for the "Event" fields, the entry date or the execution date? And on a similar note, I believe that the place names are residence places or birth places, not execution sites, but without more context it's just guessing. And even if I'm correct, which (birthplace or residence) I just can't tell. And the whole "40 let" thing is...perplexing. How should I proceed? Any help would be very greatly appreciated. :) --Mmcroyle 23:14, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
'A Your example in brackets is as follows: Václav = first name; Černý = Surname; 40 = age; Brno = residence. Event Date use the date of execution. That is how I have proceeded. --Elisabeth power 11:37, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Q: I've a page that has columns for execution date, and also for confiscations with a date. I've been using the execution date as the event date, but if there is no execution date, should I put in the confiscation date instead? edit: If it is a confiscation date, that is. It's the number after "Gest.", as in "Gest. 25.6.1943" -- the other number in this column appears to apply to various articles of legislation. --Mmcroyle 19:03, 9 June 2015 (UTC) Q: For birthplace, the pages I have now list foreign names as "city/country", so for example, "Genua/Italien". Should I key this as printed, or separate with commas? --Mmcroyle 23:29, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
A: to Q1 gest means died. We do not key the date of death. Ignore legislation. At the bottom there will be an event date and place.
A: to Q2 birthplace: the instructions say to separate birthplace, county, state with commas.--Elisabeth power 06:28, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
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About the instructions for keying month names - it is not a good idea to use červen as the abbreviation for červenec, because červen means June but červenec means July! Please can you rethink this. --Katerimmer 22:24, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
The language for this project is shown as English, which is causing people to download image sets and then cancel them when they find out it it not in English. Could this please be corrected? --Katerimmer 07:15, 30 April 2015 (UTC)