Talk:World Archives Project: USHMM - Czech Republic, Social Welfare and Repatriation Records of Holocaust Survivors, 1939-1948

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You can use Google translate for Czech to English.Click the keyboard icon in the corner to enter Czech characters.
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You can use Google translate for Czech to English. Click the keyboard icon in the corner to enter Czech characters.
http://translate.google.com/#
http://translate.google.com/#
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==Czech Characters==
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The following are part of the Czech language: haceks (carons), acute accents
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:á č ď ě é í ľ ň ř š ť ú ů ý ž
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:Á Č Ď Ě É Í Ľ Ň Ř Š Ť Ú Ů Ý Ž
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The following are not part of the Czech language but are common in German-origin surnames: umlauts
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:ä ö ü
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:Ä Ö Ü
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You are very unlikely to encounter any breves such as "ĕ" though it looks VERY similar to "ě", or macrons such as "ū".
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==Useful Vocab==
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Note: The forms of many of these words may vary with grammar. Feel free to edit or expand this section, more is better!
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*jsem se narodila = I was born
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*jménovany se narodila =the applicant was born
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*můj =my
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*jeho=his
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*svůj=his
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*její =hers
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*v =in
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*a =and
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*dcera = daughter
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*syn= son
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*otec = father
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*matka = mother
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*manželka =wife
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*manžel =husband
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*choť = husband
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*babička =grandmother
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*dědeček =grandfather
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*ženatý = married (male)
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*vdaná = married (female)
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*sňatek =marriage
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*rozvedený =divorced
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*žemrel =died
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*adresa = address
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*bydliště = residence
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*neznámo = unknown
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*změna jméno = change of name
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==Content Notes ==
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The images appear in utterly random order, one does not follow another. No attempt should be made to pull information from one image to another, as the images are NOT in sequence. Also because of this, it is very unlikely that you will be able to mark any images as duplicates.
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==Discussion on Prefixes==
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The following are common prefixes, not on the list.
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*pan, or pán,  or p = Mr
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*paní, or pí, = Mrs
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*slečna, or sl = Miss
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*Ing or inž... for Engineers, I think
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*JUDr = Juris Doctor (Dr of law)
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*MUDr = Medical Doctor
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==Discussion on document days ==
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There has been considerable disagreement amongst keyers on what does and does not qualify as a document date. Here are some guidelines.
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What does qualify (preferred):
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*a date at the top or bottom of a letter, especially in the standard form {Place} {Date}
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*a date in a field labeled document date, or the like
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What does not qualify:
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*References within the text to events, such as the date of future plans, the date a law was passed, etc.
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Grey areas: (only when a preferred date cannot be identified)
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*Stamps
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*Latest log entry
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==Discussion on aliases and Czech Grammar==
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One of the major issues with the Czech projects has been how the Czech language handles names. They change the name depending on how it's used. For example Jindřich becomes Jindřicha, Karel becomes Karla, and on. Sometimes keyers are entering these alternate forms as separate people, sometimes as aliases. But in reality they are neither. I prefer, by far the nominative form (the actual name) when I can get it (in the absence of which, they must be keyed as written).
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==Discussion on place names and Czech Grammar==
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In a similar manner to personal names, place names also change depending on usage. For example: Brno becomes Brně, Praha (Prague) becomes Praze, Vídeň (Vienna) becomes Vídni.  Like the personal names, I prefer the nominative form when possible, but likewise, key as seen when the nominative form isn't available in the text of the document.
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==Discussion on full address vs City and district only==
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The actual rule on these states that if there is a separate field for the street address to only key the city or district. After arbitrating a couple hundred of these I have determined that you hardly ever get an actual separate field for the street address. Meaning that most of the time it gets to be keyed in full. So  if in doubt, key the full address.
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==Discussion on inferring surnames==
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I'd like to share my thoughts on this topic. I don't feel that it is very useful for a person to be known by only their first name if it is possible to avoid it. Especially as the images in this collection won't be published. I feel that it will be acceptable to infer the wife's surname from her husband, or the children from their parents.
== Common Keying Errors Found by Reviewers  ==
== Common Keying Errors Found by Reviewers  ==
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This project uses diacritics (accents) - please be sure to&nbsp;key them as seen.<br>  
This project uses diacritics (accents) - please be sure to&nbsp;key them as seen.<br>  
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Most images have multiple documents on them.&nbsp; If the documents all relate to the same person, enter the latest date and only key the name once.
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Most images have multiple documents on them.&nbsp; If the documents all relate to the same person, enter the latest date and only key the name once. If the documents concern different people, make sections for each person.
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== Questions and Answers  ==
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Document order: in order to facilitate alignment in arbitration it would be helpful if documents were read in the same order. This also makes a difference in accuracy as section headers cannot be moved independently in arbitration. I suggest reading the documents like you would the panels in a normal comic book (left-to-right), and not a manga (right to left). It will make less of a difference when we hit the a-review sets, but for now everything has been arbitrated.
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<span style="color:orange"> '''If you have a keying question that is not answered on the project page or in any of the information above, click “EDIT” and ask it here. (If you click on Rich Editor you won't have to worry about formatting your entry.) Then click “WATCH” at the top right on this page and you will be notified via email when an update has been made.'''</span>'''<br><br>''' Does anyone know why the stats on this project never change fron 0%? Just curious, as it feels like we're not making any progress.  
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Names of months. Quite often the only arbitration has been to the names of the months. There is quite a complicated rule in how do determine the correct month format. It has to do with the language the document was written in. If the document is in English, use English format, for German, German, and for Czech, Czech. I suppose for bilingual forms go with the language the person who actually filled out the document wrote in.
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Calculating Year of birth. We don't calculate the year of birth from age without specific instructions to do so. Most especially don't use the date from a document that the age isn't written on as a basis for such calculation.
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Keying as seen. Marriage status and nationality are fields that are keyed as written, however is acceptable to say someone is married when you see a phrase like "My husband John is in the army...."
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Lost in translation: please don't translate place names, nor infer the country when it's not stated. Likewise don't omit the country when it is explicitly listed.
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I have at least one keyer who is doing an excellent job of understanding the data, and for mining it for all it's worth, but whose accuracy rate doesn't reflect this. The reasons boil down to key as seen, and inference of what isn't actually stated. Since this keyer is really doing a pretty good job, I don't him to be discouraged by his present accuracy rate. No translating Londýn to London, Švýcarsko to Switzerland, or looking up the country of certain towns. I know it's very tempting.
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== Questions and Answers  ==
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<span style="color:orange"> '''If you have a keying question that is not answered on the project page or in any of the information above, click “EDIT” and ask it here. (If you click on Rich Editor you won't have to worry about formatting your entry.) Then click “WATCH” at the top right on this page and you will be notified via email when an update has been made.'''</span>'''<br>
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<pre>'''Q: How do we treat images that have more than one document in it? Example; [[File:Image:Selected_Records.jpg]]</pre>
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==Suggestions/Additions==
==Suggestions/Additions==
<span style="color:orange"> '''If you have a suggestion or would like to make an addition to the project page, click “EDIT” and post your suggestion here. (If you click on Rich Editor you won't have to worry about formatting your entry.) Then click “WATCH” at the top right on this page and you will be notified via email when an update has been made.'''</span>'''<br><br>'''
<span style="color:orange"> '''If you have a suggestion or would like to make an addition to the project page, click “EDIT” and post your suggestion here. (If you click on Rich Editor you won't have to worry about formatting your entry.) Then click “WATCH” at the top right on this page and you will be notified via email when an update has been made.'''</span>'''<br><br>'''

Revision as of 01:17, 15 May 2013

Feel free to add to or edit information in this discussion tab as necessary. Please take time to become familiar with the General Keying Standards and be sure to read all instructions on the main project page. (Please note that in case of a discrepancy, project level instructions always trump general keying standards.)

Contents

Extra Keying Helps


You can use Google translate for Czech to English. Click the keyboard icon in the corner to enter Czech characters.

http://translate.google.com/#


Czech Characters

The following are part of the Czech language: haceks (carons), acute accents

á č ď ě é í ľ ň ř š ť ú ů ý ž
Á Č Ď Ě É Í Ľ Ň Ř Š Ť Ú Ů Ý Ž

The following are not part of the Czech language but are common in German-origin surnames: umlauts

ä ö ü
Ä Ö Ü

You are very unlikely to encounter any breves such as "ĕ" though it looks VERY similar to "ě", or macrons such as "ū".

Useful Vocab

Note: The forms of many of these words may vary with grammar. Feel free to edit or expand this section, more is better!

  • jsem se narodila = I was born
  • jménovany se narodila =the applicant was born
  • můj =my
  • jeho=his
  • svůj=his
  • její =hers
  • v =in
  • a =and
  • dcera = daughter
  • syn= son
  • otec = father
  • matka = mother
  • manželka =wife
  • manžel =husband
  • choť = husband
  • babička =grandmother
  • dědeček =grandfather
  • ženatý = married (male)
  • vdaná = married (female)
  • sňatek =marriage
  • rozvedený =divorced
  • žemrel =died
  • adresa = address
  • bydliště = residence
  • neznámo = unknown
  • změna jméno = change of name

Content Notes

The images appear in utterly random order, one does not follow another. No attempt should be made to pull information from one image to another, as the images are NOT in sequence. Also because of this, it is very unlikely that you will be able to mark any images as duplicates.

Discussion on Prefixes

The following are common prefixes, not on the list.

  • pan, or pán, or p = Mr
  • paní, or pí, = Mrs
  • slečna, or sl = Miss
  • Ing or inž... for Engineers, I think
  • JUDr = Juris Doctor (Dr of law)
  • MUDr = Medical Doctor

Discussion on document days

There has been considerable disagreement amongst keyers on what does and does not qualify as a document date. Here are some guidelines.

What does qualify (preferred):

  • a date at the top or bottom of a letter, especially in the standard form {Place} {Date}
  • a date in a field labeled document date, or the like

What does not qualify:

  • References within the text to events, such as the date of future plans, the date a law was passed, etc.

Grey areas: (only when a preferred date cannot be identified)

  • Stamps
  • Latest log entry

Discussion on aliases and Czech Grammar

One of the major issues with the Czech projects has been how the Czech language handles names. They change the name depending on how it's used. For example Jindřich becomes Jindřicha, Karel becomes Karla, and on. Sometimes keyers are entering these alternate forms as separate people, sometimes as aliases. But in reality they are neither. I prefer, by far the nominative form (the actual name) when I can get it (in the absence of which, they must be keyed as written).

Discussion on place names and Czech Grammar

In a similar manner to personal names, place names also change depending on usage. For example: Brno becomes Brně, Praha (Prague) becomes Praze, Vídeň (Vienna) becomes Vídni. Like the personal names, I prefer the nominative form when possible, but likewise, key as seen when the nominative form isn't available in the text of the document.

Discussion on full address vs City and district only

The actual rule on these states that if there is a separate field for the street address to only key the city or district. After arbitrating a couple hundred of these I have determined that you hardly ever get an actual separate field for the street address. Meaning that most of the time it gets to be keyed in full. So if in doubt, key the full address.

Discussion on inferring surnames

I'd like to share my thoughts on this topic. I don't feel that it is very useful for a person to be known by only their first name if it is possible to avoid it. Especially as the images in this collection won't be published. I feel that it will be acceptable to infer the wife's surname from her husband, or the children from their parents.

Common Keying Errors Found by Reviewers

This project uses diacritics (accents) - please be sure to key them as seen.

Most images have multiple documents on them.  If the documents all relate to the same person, enter the latest date and only key the name once. If the documents concern different people, make sections for each person.

Document order: in order to facilitate alignment in arbitration it would be helpful if documents were read in the same order. This also makes a difference in accuracy as section headers cannot be moved independently in arbitration. I suggest reading the documents like you would the panels in a normal comic book (left-to-right), and not a manga (right to left). It will make less of a difference when we hit the a-review sets, but for now everything has been arbitrated.

Names of months. Quite often the only arbitration has been to the names of the months. There is quite a complicated rule in how do determine the correct month format. It has to do with the language the document was written in. If the document is in English, use English format, for German, German, and for Czech, Czech. I suppose for bilingual forms go with the language the person who actually filled out the document wrote in.

Calculating Year of birth. We don't calculate the year of birth from age without specific instructions to do so. Most especially don't use the date from a document that the age isn't written on as a basis for such calculation.

Keying as seen. Marriage status and nationality are fields that are keyed as written, however is acceptable to say someone is married when you see a phrase like "My husband John is in the army...."


Lost in translation: please don't translate place names, nor infer the country when it's not stated. Likewise don't omit the country when it is explicitly listed.

I have at least one keyer who is doing an excellent job of understanding the data, and for mining it for all it's worth, but whose accuracy rate doesn't reflect this. The reasons boil down to key as seen, and inference of what isn't actually stated. Since this keyer is really doing a pretty good job, I don't him to be discouraged by his present accuracy rate. No translating Londýn to London, Švýcarsko to Switzerland, or looking up the country of certain towns. I know it's very tempting.

Questions and Answers

If you have a keying question that is not answered on the project page or in any of the information above, click “EDIT” and ask it here. (If you click on Rich Editor you won't have to worry about formatting your entry.) Then click “WATCH” at the top right on this page and you will be notified via email when an update has been made.

Suggestions/Additions

If you have a suggestion or would like to make an addition to the project page, click “EDIT” and post your suggestion here. (If you click on Rich Editor you won't have to worry about formatting your entry.) Then click “WATCH” at the top right on this page and you will be notified via email when an update has been made.

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