Talk:World Archives Project: New York, U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1795-1972

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Oath of Allegience Form

Do we key the information from this form on the #3 Petition Form?

No, the oath of allegiance is a cover page -- Wiedwoman 22:37, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

'Under Name of'

What do I do when the name a person arrived under is different than the name on application. To be a little clearer: "The petition of Anna Demand......My lawful entry...under the name of Hania Druker....

A: The name she arrived under would qualify as an alias

--Paulmd199 23:19, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Letter stating institution of cancelation of naturalization

Am I correct to assume that a letter stating that a naturalization would be keyed in as a "cover page". It is an actual letter no form involved. The same with all the other paper work that has been scanned?

Letters are classified as cover pages -- Wiedwoman 02:12, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Declarations of Intent

The wiki guidelines for Petition for Naturalization 3 state "Also the Petition for Naturalization 3 form type for declarations is characterized by the text "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" printed at the top of the page. Directly below this title will be a small horizontal line, and below that will be the subtitle: "Declaration of Intention". Does that also include Declarations that have UNITED STATES OF AMERICA as an arch a la the example images for Petition #1 rather than on a line a la the example images for Petition 3? --Kateshort2 19:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I believe the Declaration you are referring to also falls under Petition 3. There is a picture of it in the instructions. Also I am assuming you mean it is alone on a page since if it were on top of or along with other docs, it would be a cover page.--Dirigo9 04:14, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
There are two pictures of it in the instructions, one at the top with the caption "Declaration should not be keyed because it lies on top of another form" and one at the bottom as an example of form number 3. I hadn't seen the second when I was reading the description paragraph of what qualified for form number 3, so thanks for pointing it out--but should the description for form number three be edited to include this sort of Declaration? To me, he two images of this sort of Declaration form look like exactly the same form containing exactly the same information, except perhaps for paper size-- if that's really the difference, is paper size enough of a difference to warrant one being keyed and the other not? (I have never seen a full-page version of this sort of Declaration; every one I've come across lies on top of another form.) --Kateshort2 05:04, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
I think when you see the full page version you will know it. I have had both versions as I move through this project and have been keying the "full page" version of the Declaration as form #3. The full page Declarations are usually followed on the next page with a full page Petition 3, so that would also be a clue to you that this is the full page, #3 version. I do agree it is confusing since the forms are essentially the same, just a different size. If any of the arbitrators have feedback to indicate this is incorrect, I would appreciate it. I believe I am doing it correctly as this seems to agree completely with the instructions and examples for Petition 3.--Dirigo9 04:23, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Spouse Surname:  If there is no surname listed, do we mark the field blank or just leave it empty?  When I am on a Petition for Naturalization form #1, the spouse surname field starts off the orange color for required, but the program lets me go to the next image when I leave the spouse surname field empty.  (22 May 2011) 

Form #1 and Form #3 behave differently in the keying tool. Form #3 has the spouse Surname as required (shaded in orange, and so should be marked blank if missing), while in Form #1 it is not required (and so should not be marked as blank if missing).
--Mitchhollander 00:22, 25 May 2011 (UTC) (updated answer)

Birth Country: Why are there Petitions submitted by women who were born in the US? I've seen three or four so far, and have entered 'USA' into the field.

As to keying, as hard as it is to resist, don't infer stuff that isn't actually on the forms we're keying.  So, if it obviously is USA, but not on the form, leave the field blank.
As to "Why?" take a look at this and other items related to the subject of naturlaization laws:  http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1998/summer/women-and-naturalization-1.html

--Rhmaynard 17:44, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

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