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Addington, Oklahoma

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Addington is located in Jefferson county of Oklahoma.

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Afton, Oklahoma

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Afton is located in [[Ottawa_County,_Oklahoma|Ottawa]] county of Oklahoma.

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== World Wide Content ==
Like all these people on this document, I too would love to have access to records from more countries. I know that Ancestry.ca is working hard to collect more records and I was recently thrilled to be able to search my Irish roots more thoroughly. I would like to just put in a word for Belgian ( specifically Flemish) records. -[[User:Victoriaannebury|Victoriaannebury]] 03:34, 3 April 2011 (UTC)Victoria Bury

Thanks for all you do but I have to agree. I don't have any links with the USA. I am trying to find Scotland mainly Scotland and St Helena Alantic Ocean lineage. Please help me with these records. jb

If this wiki continues to be so US dominated I can't imagine anyone else will bother with it. How about some UK and Aussie links from the front page? --Always sign your name after your comments by using two hyphens (or a dash) followed by four tildes (<code>-- '''<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>'''</code>).
Sorry. Thanks. [[User:Geoffeisen|Geoffeisen]] 19:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

: Thanks for your input. We're working on broadening our content. Currently, we're in the process of uploading the content from Echo King's ''Finding Answers in British Isles Census Records.'' We appreciate your efforts in helping us out in the area. Look for some links and organization on the homepage in the next few weeks. --[[User:Matrayback|Matrayback]] 17:58, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I agree. My Mother is from Spain and I can not find a single record for any of my Spanish Relatives or any records from Spain. Paying for the "World" membership was a complete waste of money. jmcates11

I think this will work out all right, it just takes time. Like the Spain person, we do need some special pages. I do research in Scotland and Germany and Switzerland. I would think it's hard to find and recover all special papers for everyone and that would be to have people spread out on everything instead of one place. This is going to take a long time to complete, but I'm willing to wait. My daughter will take up the reins when I'm gone. I am going to enjoy myself while I can.wwwcomWORLDWIDE

WORLD WIDE CONTENT?
i AM ALSO VERY DISSATISFIED AND i FEEL MISLED BECAUSE NOT ONLY THAT WE HAVE ACCESS ONLY TO US RECORDS BUT EVEN THOSE ARE VERY LIMITED AND HAVE MANY WRONG INFORMATION. EVEN BIRTH RECORDS ARE MOST OFTEN ESTIMATED.MY GRANDMOTHER WAS BORN IN USA AND LIVED HERE IN LATE 1800 TILL AGE 14. I CAN'T FIND ANY OF HER RECORDS ALTHOUGH I HAVE ALL HER INFORMATION. FEW WEEKS AGO THERE WAS PERMISSION TO SEARCH IN OTHER COUNTRIES SO I HAVE TRIED POLAND MY COUNTRY OF ORIGIN JUST TO FIND 99% OF THE RECORDS BEING OF THOSE WHO HAVE JEWISH ROOTS. POLAND HAVE ONE OF THE BEST ADMINISTRATIVE RECORDS OF PEOPLE STARTING FROM SIXTEEN CENTURY AND I AM SURPRISED THAT ANCESTRY.COM HAVE NO ACCESS TO THEM. I HOPE THAT THIS WILL CHANGE IF THEY WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THEM. THE THINGS THAT I LIKE ABOUT ANCESTRY.COM IS GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE AND EASE OF CREATING FAMILY TREE.

Likewise, I'm am dismayed that I can get no data from Belarus/Poland/Russia/Ukraine. I finally downgraded my subscription to U.S. since I can't get the information I desperately need for any of my great-grandparents and previous generations. And I'm still struggling trying to locate death records for my great-grandparents here in the U.S.!

== world searches??? ==

I'm not sure if this is the place to voice this, but what is the point of paying for a "world" access if there aren't any records that go beyond the US census and immigration records? My great grandparents never came to this country so there will be no record of them here. With my grandparents long gone, and great grands before my parents ever met, how can I search to even find out who they were? I have a town in Italy but am getting nowhere since the only records that seem to be available to us are US? While it has been fun to find out specifics about the previous generation or two, how do I go beyond the 19th century and delve deeper into the past (which is really what the site promises)?

WhtLily92@aol.com

Exactly! I am trying to find information about my Great grandparents who came to hawaii from korea and there is nothing past hawaii.
There needs to be better if not more records or articles about hawaii!!!! seriously!

I'm trying to find my great grand who live in germany in the 1800. there name is reif.
thank you l reif

I think that Ancestry.com needs to get records from Mexico and south America. Many of our ancestors went there first and stayed there for many generations. I cant find much past grand parents.

rednenya@aol.com

== Austria ==

I am looking for any type of records of my great-great grandfather (b. 1855) who came to the US from Austria in 1969. All I have is that he showed up in New Jersey and was naturalized in 1878 and his life from there on, but cannot find how he came over to US. There are no passender records on him and I can't even find any records for Austria....any ideas?
soemadi1219@msn.com

==

== Paramount Studios ==

I am looking for a Laurie Baker who worked for Paramount Pictures in 1937. She lived at 427 9th St, Santa Monica,Co on May17, 1937
Her fathers name was Charles or Charley. She had a brother Harry who was in the Army Foreign Services and another brother Billy who was in the CCC's in SantaBarbra. Her mother lived in Van Nuys and may have been named Mary. She was born in 1916. At the time of the letter "1937" she was in talks with Francis Lederer about getting a bit part in the picture "The Life of Chapin". Any information that I can get about this women would be greatly appreciated. She was my grandmother's neice.

I cannot find any information regarding Mexico I had to stop the so called World Search but there was no information regarding Mexico, I would have thought the Ancestry.com would have looked into their closest neighbor to the South then to the North and the rest of the so called World search as I know that the records were their from the 1500's forward and Spain started the genealogy papers those many years ago and it would have the first place I would have looked as so many ancestors are here in the U.S. since that time, give me a break the Ancestry.com gave the excuse that LDS beat them to the punch and A.com did not make a deal with the LDS to buy their information to give to all of the rest of us that are paying A.cpm for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Manuel P Lopez
mannylo@charter.com

YES! I too am finding myself in a road block when I try to get past the boat. I have the name of the boat they arrived on and the departure location in Germany, but where do I go from there? I am reluctant to fork out the high "subscription" cost for the world tree access. --[[User:Sercfriesen1|Sercfriesen1]] 23:24, 23 February 2011 (UTC)RF

== Worldwide Records needs more attention ==

I understand there is a Hungary census now. Us Worldwide members would like to see even more census materials from the European countries. Thanks! Donnam129

== Kudos ==

Searching for my ancestors has been difficult, especially the ones from foreign countries, but I would not have gotten as far as I have without Ancestry.com. It has taken a lot of years and patience. I am amazed at the volume of information you have gathered in the last few years. I hope everyone will be patient and realize that gathering the information from all these different countries will be a long and difficult task. After 30 years of searching (with limited resources) I can now fill several large binders with the information on my father's line. Five years ago I could only fill 2 pages. I also have many contacts with other relatives that I wouldn't have had if it hadn't been for Ancestry.com. Thank you, thank you.
--weaverladyllj--
john heise

== Relatives from Germany ==
I am looking for information about relatives that is from the town of herzb Germany,
this relativ lived in the 14th century and his name was Michael Joseph Herzberger. My father looked up our name back in the 60's in a book name "German Linage Books, by siebmacher,Volume VIII, pagr 115. If anyone has any information about this book pleace let me know. Thank you jehcress

== South America and Colombia South Amercia ==

I am looking for relatives of Ceasar Cuevas who married Isabel Viatella. Ceasar's father was Miguel Angel, I am not sure why Ceasar took the name Cuevas instead of Angle or if Angle was his middle name. Ths is all I have on my husband's parents and grandfather. If anyone has any information it would be greatly appreciated. Stella Morris

== Searching outside of the U.S. ==

For those of you who are searching for ancestors outside of the United States, if you haven't tried, you might try .. Family Tree Makers.com ... However, like most things nowadays, I'm sure there will be monetary expectations involved w/using this site. n/b

== Passenger List Address ==

A passenger list gave an address where my aunt will be going upon arrival in New York in 1924. How do I find out
who lived at that address at the time
find my brother call me my phone is 951 207 7317 give me a call back ok

True world has not been developed very well yet, but I have definitely found it worth the while searching in England and a little bit in Germany. I recommend finding what you can and augmenting it with extensive web searching. Together these two tools have yielded good results for me.

== Selena is sweet and thankful for her family tree ==

My family tree is beautiful and gorgus to me in my entire life also thanks to ancestry.com I can see all my ancesters.

Slaves of alabama

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[[Category: Red Book: American State, County, and Town Sources]]
''This entry was originally written by [[Robert S. Davis]] and [[Mary Bess Paluzzi]] for [[Red Book: American State, County, and Town Sources]].''
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Several distinct sources for researching African-American families in Alabama are available. As previously stated, separate slave censuses, listing slave owners only with demographic information on slaves were taken in 1850 and 1860, in addition to enumerations of slaves on earlier censuses. The records of the Bureau of Refugees, Freedmen, and Abandoned Lands (see page []) detail this bureau’s work to ease the problems faced by freedmen after the Civil War. Three microfilmed series are available from the National Archives: ''Records of the Alabama Field Offices, Bureau of Refugees, Abandoned Lands, and Freedmen, 1865–1870'' (M1900, 34 reels); ''Records of the Assistant Commissioner for the State of Alabama, 1867–70'' (M809, 23 reels); and ''Records of the Superintendent of Education for the State of Alabama, 1865–70'' (M810, 8 reels). The genealogically rich surviving records of the Huntsville and Mobile branches of the Freedman’s Savings and Trust Company, 1865–74, have been abstracted by the Genealogical Society of Utah and have been placed on CD-ROM computer disks.

A resource published by the Alabama Center for Higher Education, Collection and Evaluation Materials about Black Americans Program entitled ''Catalogue of the Records of Black Organizations in Alabama'' (Birmingham: Alabama Center for Higher Education, 1979) should be particularly helpful to researchers seeking access to records of African-American business, religious, civic, political, social, and educational organizations. Entries for 239 different organizations indicate briefly when the organization was founded, what records are available, and whom to contact for access to the records.

See also the brief discussion of free African Americans in [[Alabama Probate Records]].

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William Kittinger

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=='''William Kittinger'''==
* Born 7 Oct 1784, Chester County, PA (Some sources have his birth in Muhlenburg County, KY)
* Died 9 May 1841, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
* Buried Kirtly-Kittinger Cemetery, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky

===Parents===
Father: [[Rudolph Kittinger]]
* Born 17 Aug 1755, PA
* Died 1835, PA
* Buried

Mother: [[Mary Lowry]]
* Born
* Died
* Buried

===Spouse===
[[Mary Francis "Polly" Ferguson]]
* Born 18 Oct 1786, Botetourt County, Virginia
* Died 7 Mar 1874, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
* Buried Kirtly-Kittinger Cemetery, Muhlenberg County, Kentucky
* Married 13 Jan 1807

===Children===
* Christina Kittinger
** Born 1808
**
**

* Hannah Kittinger
** Born 27 Apr 1810
** Died
** Buried

* Sarah Foster Kittinger
** Born 18 May 1812
** Died 16 Sep 1876
** Buried

* Nancy Catherine Kittinger (Kirtley)
** Born 22 July 1814
** Died 8 November 1896
** Buried McDougall Cemetery, Muhlenberg County, Kentucky

* [[Andrew_F_Kittinger|Andrew F Kittinger]]
** Born 18 Aug 1817, Muhlenberg County, Kentucky
** Died 6 Jun 1870, Muhlenberg County, Kentucky
** Buried Grundy Cemetery, Muhlenberg County, Kentucky

* William D Kittinger
** Born 29 Aug 1821
** Died 8 June 1863
** Buried Kirtly-Kittinger Cemetery, Muhlenberg County, Kentucky

* John Kittinger
** Born 1822
** Died
** Buried

* Daniel K Kittinger
** Born 1825
** Died
** Buried

* Polly Kittinger ?
** Born ?
** Died
** Buried

* Eliza E Kittinger
** Born 1829
** Died
** Buried

===Sources===
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/g/r/e/Mel-M-Greer/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0070.html

http://muhlenberg.genealogenie.net/Wills/kittinger_william.htm

http://muhlenberg.genealogenie.net/cemeteries/kittinger/cemetery.htm

http://muhlenberg.genealogenie.net/cemeteries/mcdougall/cemetery.htm

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=='''Rudolph Kittinger'''==
* Born 17 Aug 1755, Chester County, PA
* Died 1835
* Buried

===Parents===
Father: [[Jacob Guttinger]] (Americanized to Kittinger)
* Born 13 Aug 1713, Aeugst am Albis, Zurich Canton Switzerland
* Died
* Buried

Mother: [[Anna Weiss]]
* Born
* Died
* Buried

===Spouse===
[[Mary Lowry]]
* Born
* Died
* Buried
* Married 1778

===Children===
* Jacob Kittinger
** Born 1782
** Died 1845
** Buried

* William Kittinger
** Born 7 Oct 1784, Chester County, PA
** Died 9 May 1841, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
** Buried Kirtly-Kittinger Cemetery, Muhlenberg County, Kentucky

* David Kittinger
** Born 1793
** Died 1840
** Buried

* Joseph Kittinger
** Born 1795
** Died 1870
** Buried

* Samuel Kittinger
** Born 1798
** Died
** Buried

* John Kittinger
** Born 20 Aug 1809
** Died 9 Apr 1891
** Buried

* John Martin Kittinger
** Born 1820
** Died 1896
** Buried

* Martin Kittinger
** Born
** Died
** Buried

* Elizabeth Kittinger
** Born
** Died
** Buried

* Mary Polly Kittinger
** Born
** Died
** Buried

===Sources===

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/g/r/e/Mel-M-Greer/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0070.html

Roy Gene Kittinger

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=='''Roy Gene Kittinger'''==
*Born July 16, 1931

===Parents===
Father: [[Robert Eugene Kittinger]]
*Born 1902
*Died 1952

Mother: [[Lavinia Goodwin Ellis]]
*Born 1910
*Died 2005

===Spouse===
*[[Wilma Lee Pendley]]
**Born 12 Feb 1932 in Dunbar, Butler County, Kentucky
**Married 20 Aug 1954

===Children===
*Keith Eugene Kittinger
**5 Jul 1955 in Hopkins County, Kentucky, United States
*Karrie Lee Kittinger
**16 Nov 1957 in Hopkins County, Kentucky, United States
*[[Kenneth_Wayne_Kittinger|Kenneth Wayne Kittinger]]
**11 Oct 1960 in Hopkins County, Kentucky, United States
*Kathy Ann Kittinger
**17 Jul 1962 in Hopkins County, Kentucky, United States
*Karla Faye Kittinger
**3 Jan 1968 in Hopkins County, Kentucky, United States

===Sources===
All Living

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=='''Robert Eugene Kittinger'''==
*Born 1902
*Died 28 Sep 1952
*Buried Poplar Grove Cemetery, Mclean County Kentucky

===Parents===
Father: [[Claude F Kittinger]]
*Born 25 June 1879
*Died 16 June 1952
*Buried Poplar Grove Cemetery, Mclean County Kentucky

Mother: [[Margaret E Mize]]
*Born 18 Jan 1879
*Died 17 July 1950
*Buried Poplar Grove Cemetery, Mclean County Kentucky

===Spouse===
[[Lavinia Goodwin Ellis]]
*Born 1910
*Died 20 Nov 2005
*Buried Poplar Grove Cemetery, Mclean County Kentucky
*Married

===Children===
*Roy Gene Kittinger
**Born 16 July 1931
**Died
*2nd Child
**Born
**Died
*3rd Child
**Born
**Died

===Sources===
Family Records (will post when I get them)

http://files.usgwarchives.net/ky/mclean/cemeteries/poplargr.txt

Kittinger Family Line (Paternal grandfather)

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'''Sarah Benalene Kittinger McArthur'''

'''Father''': [[Kenneth Wayne Kittinger]]

'''Mother''': [[Patricia Carmen Hines]]

Sources:

Kenneth Wayne Kittinger

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'''Kenneth Wayne Kittinger'''

'''Father''': [[Roy Gene Kittinger]]
*Born July 16, 1931

'''Mother''': [[Wilma Lee Pendley]]
*Born

'''Spouse''': [[Patricia Carmen Hines]]
*Born

'''Children''':
*[[Kittinger_Family_Line_(Paternal_grandfather)|Sarah Benalene Kittinger McArthur]]
**Born July 23, 1985
*Allen Wayne Kittinger

Sources:

Claude F Kittinger

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=='''Claude F Kittinger'''==
* Born 25 June 1879
* Died 16 June 1952
* Buried Poplar Grove Cemetery, Mclean County Kentucky

===Parents===
Father: [[John Elwood Kittinger]]
* Born 26 Jan 1853, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
* Died 17 Jan 1925, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
* Buried Poplar Grove Cemetery, Mclean County Kentucky

Mother: [[Delia A Bidwell]]
* Born 3 Sep 1860
* Died 28 Sep 1945
* Buried Poplar Grove Cemetery, Mclean County Kentucky

===Spouse===
[[Margaret E Mize]]
* Born 18 Jan 1879
* Died 17 July 1950
* Buried Poplar Grove Cemetery, Mclean County Kentucky
* Married

===Children===
* [[Robert_Eugene_Kittinger|Robert Eugene Kittinger]]
** Born 1902
** Died 28 Sep 1952
** Buried Poplar Grove Cemetery, Mclean County Kentucky
* Child
** Born
** Died

===Sources===
Family Records

http://files.usgwarchives.net/ky/mclean/cemeteries/poplargr.txt

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=='''John Elwood Kittinger'''==
* Born 26 Jan 1853, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
* Died 17 Jan 1925, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
* Buried Poplar Grove Cemetery, Mclean County Kentucky

===Parents===
Father: [[Andrew F Kittinger]]
*Born 18 Aug 1817, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
*Died 6 Jun 1870, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky

Mother: [[Amanda Ann Shutt (Shutton)]]
*Born 18 May 1821
*Died 2 Apr 1869, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky

===Spouse===
[[Delia A Bidwell]]
* Born 3 Sep 1860
* Died 28 Sep 1945
* Buried Poplar Grove Cemetery, Mclean County Kentucky
* Married 26 May 1878 in McLean Co., Kentucky

===Children===
* [[Claude_F_Kittinger|Claude F Kittinger]]
** Born 25 June 1879
** Died 16 June 1952
** Buried Poplar Grove Cemetery, Mclean County Kentucky
* 2nd Child
** Born
** Died
* 3rd Child
** Born
** Died

===Sources===
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/roots-l/usa/files/MUHLEN.TXT

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3130390&id=I2997

Andrew F Kittinger

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=='''Andrew F Kittinger'''==
* Born 18 Aug 1817, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
* Died 6 Jun 1870, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
* Buried Grundy Cemetery, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky

===Parents===
Father: [[William Kittinger]]
* Born 7 Oct 1784, Pensylvania
* Died 9 May 1841, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
* Buried Kirtly-Kittinger Cemetery

Mother: [[Mary Francis "Polly" Ferguson]]
* Born 18 Oct 1786, Botetourt County, Virginia
* Died 7 Mar 1874, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
* Buried Kirtly-Kittinger Cemetery

===Spouse===
[[Amanda Ann Shutt]] (also spelled Shutton)
* Born 18 May 1821
* Died 2 Apr 1869, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
* Buried Grundy Cemetery, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
* Married 23 Dec 1841, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky

===Children===
* [[Jacob S. Kittinger]]
** Born 17 Apr 1843
** Died 16 Feb 1908
** Buried

* Mary Ellen Kittinger
** Born 14 May 1847, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
** Died
** Buried

* George A Kittinger
** Born 15 Nov 1848, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
** Died 18 Dec 1895
** Buried Gish Cemetery, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky

* [[John_Elwood_Kittinger|John Elwood Kittinger]]
** Born 26 Jan 1853, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
** Died 17 Jan 1925, Muhlenburg County, Kentucky
** Buried Poplar Grove Cemetery, Mclean County Kentucky

===Sources===
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3130390&id=I2978

http://muhlenberg.genealogenie.net/cemeteries/kittinger/cemetery.htm

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSsr=41&GScid=74077&GRid=32168240&

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GScid=1995164&GRid=9574830&

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Does anyone have information on the birth of Wm.Franklin Murphy to Mary Alice Knight in Greene Co.Tenn. 1925 July 10.I would like to know anything you can help me with and the date of Alice's death and place of burial.She was my grandmother.She had married J.Hugh Jarnigan.But she and my father lived in a home for poor people in Greene Co.,Tenn. Please help if you know anything.The last
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Winifred ''Riley''Beckerleg
Born abt 1893 England May be an American Citizen
Married abt 22 years to Thomas George Beckerleg b. abt 1892 England.
Immigrated 1914 to New York
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The truth about William Sherwill, the Conestoga Fur Trader, as of June 2011, at least until another document is found changing everything.

Copyright June 2011 LaRae Free Kerr M Ed

When I started this project, my family group record on William Sherrill the Fur Trader, gave his wife as Mary Egford/Higford with a question mark. His proven children were Mary, Margery, William Jr and Adam. Children with question marks were Avington, two Samuels born in different years, John, Ute/Uriah/Yont, David, Amanda and Reuben. Perusing available records left a streamlined, solid family as shown below.

After carefully reading this document, if you have any true sources that support, refute or enhance the following information, I would appreciate your sharing them with me. Please do not quote “family sources,” “ancestry.com’s familytree [unless there are real sources],” “new.familysearch.org [unless sources are attached]” or any other cut-and-paste resource, for they are not sources. But do share court and land records, family Bibles, diaries, letters, etc. To follow our discoveries about the Sherrills, Perkins and Frees, please follow the blog at www.alfreefamily.blogspot.com. You may email me at itsallrelatives@sfcn.org.
Also, please, do not commit plagiarism by cutting and pasting this document into other sites, especially in pieces that leave out supporting data. When quoting this document, give complete sourcing: Kerr, LaRae Free. “The truth about William Sherwill, the Conestoga Fur Trader, as of June 2011, at least until another document is found changing everything.” www.alfreefamilyblogspot.com. 20 Jun 2011. 2027l
Further, I reserve the right to modify anything and everything in this document as you send me new information, and as Jill and I find new information. Look for the book: the working title is American Ancestors and Descendants of Mary Pennington and Andrew Free.

Names are funny things. No matter how unusual the name you are searching may be, there will be other people with the same or similar names in the same or similar time periods and places. Remember, too, please, that all spelling must be done phonetically. The surname Sherrill has been found in varying documents as well as sometimes in the same documents spelled in these and other ways: Sherrill /Shirwell/Sherrel/Sherwill/Shearwell/Sherel/Sherett/Cheril/Sherville/Sheral/Shurl/
Cherral/Sarill/Sherrerd, pronounced Sherry in parts of England
Documents are funny things, too. Thousands of records are destroyed each year, yet many make it through the natural disasters, the mice and rats, the burned house or courthouse, the trips to the dump, and end up in a library or on a microfilm or book or even onto the Internet.
Consequently, the appearance of just one record can change all that a family believed about their family heretofore. Such is the case with the William Sherrill pedigree. Please remember these three things as you peruse the following much abbreviated information: no name is unique; names must be read phonetically; and with the advent of digital technology, “lost” or at least previously unfound, ancient records are coming to light.

Why Long Island, New York’s Samuel Sherrill [identified as Shipwreck Sam] is not William Sherrill, the Conestoga Fur Trader’s, father.
A better question than this is: Why did anyone think Samuel Sherrill was William Sherrill’s father in the first place?
It was because of proximity. Those wonderful early researchers who gave us such great genealogical heritages had very few records to work with, so their modus operandi was to look around for the closest person with the same or similar last name. Still works today, but it must be accompanied by records, and it must fit known dates.
In addition, consider that genealogy rule that if you can’t prove a relationship, attempt to disprove it. The wills of Samuel Sherrill of Long Island and his wife disproved any connection to William.
Neither Samuel Sherrill’s will nor that of his wife mentioned a son named William Sherrill. In fact, the only son mentioned is Recompence. There were some daughters.
Sometimes sons are not mentioned in probates because they have already received their inheritances or are cut off. My Perkins line has examples of both. Still there are other records connecting the father and son. In the case of Samuel and William there are no connecting records found thus far, not one. Further, William lived in Maryland and just across the border into Pennsylvania while Samuel lived in Long Island, New York.
In Hudson-Mohawk Genealogical and Family Memoirs, Vol III, edited by Cuyler Reynolds and published in 1911, in an article titled “The Sherrill Line,” p 1065, it says “Recompence, only son of Samuel and ______(Parsons) Sherrill, was born in Easthampton, Long Island, about 1678 [underlining is my own].” So for at least one hundred years, Sherrill researchers have known Samuel was NOT William’s father.
Wanda Clark, in her Sherrill Saga,p 17 in my version, says, “There is no doubt that William Sherrill, the Conestoga fur trader pre-dated the Long Island Samuel Sherrill.” Therefore, Samuel Sherrill could not be Willilam’s father just simply because he was too young to be.
Further, there were other Sherrills in the Americas: Samuel Shewell, Samuel Share, John Sherle, Thomas Shirle, Thomas Sherwill, William Sherrill/Sheriff who immigrated in 1659, for example, from Virginia to New Hampshire to list just a few. See Clark, Wanda L. The Sherrill Saga. Photocopy of rough draft in possession of LaRae Free Kerr, p/s 27. McAlester, OK. 1 Jan 1987. p 26. and Shoemaker, Jill. June Research, email 17 June 2011 10:48 pm. See also Sherrill immigrants/emigrants on Ancestry.com
A new-found record seems to indicate William Sherrill, the Fur Trader, was the emigrant and is not the son of any colonial Sherrill by any spelling or domicile.

Why neither Maryland Samuel Sherrill is the Fur Trader’s father.
If proximity sent early researchers into Long Island, New York in search of William Sherrill’s parents, it sent some researchers even closer to William’s domicile when a Samuel Sherrill was found in Maryland itself. One of William Andrew Sherrill’s thousands of Sherrill note cards said: “Samuel Sherrill d. Charles County, Md 1676. B. England 1635. Married an Ashbrook. Supposed to be the father of William Sherrill. B. Charles County, Maryland, 1675.” Clark. Saga. P 36 Please note there is NO source for this information and neither of those great Sherrill researchers, William Andrew Sherrill or Wanda L Clark credit it, though in his thoroughness, Bill recorded it. The source for the death year is shown below.
Nor is there any known document connecting William Sherrill to this Samuel Sherrill of Charles County, Maryland. Records indicate this Samuel Sherrill was in Charles County, MD in 1663. Deed records then jump to 1674-1677 when this Samuel was dead. But none of these deeds, nor the estate appraisement seem to mention wife or children. Clark, Saga pp 23-25. See notes below:
Samuel Sherrill
1670 9 Aug. Samuel Serrell of Charles Co also Samuel Serell of Petuxent River in Calvert Co MD was pd 1000 lbs tobacco to cut and mail 14 foot logs.
1673. Samuell Sherrell sells Ashbrooks Rest to John Boyden
1674, 6 Nov. Samuell Sherrell of Charles Co MD? Swears about William Lewis
1676 24 Jul. Benjamin Roger (Roser?) adm his estate. Samuel Sherrill is of Charles, MD.
1678 13 Apr Robert Benjar of Baltimore Co MD administers Margaret's estate.
Why would these non-related people administer the estates of Samuel and Margaret, his wife, if they had living children? Especially since William Sherrill, the Fur Trader, was nearby? Kerr, LaRae Free. Notes and Timeline. Personal Ancestral File under Samuel Sherrill d 1676 Md.
Still another Samuel Shewell/Showell can be found in Maryland records, in Somerset County. This one’s wife was Mary; his children were Johnathan, Mary and Charles, and his will was drawn 18 Apr 1695 and proved 13 Oct 1698 through 18 Jul 1713. Clark, Saga. P 38. No known record connects this man to William Sherrill, the Fur Trader.
CONCLUSION: No records connect William Sherrill the fur trader to any Samuel Sherrill. Both the Long Island, NY Samuel Sherrill and the Somerset County, MD Samuel Sherrill were too young to be William’s father. The Charles County, MD Samuel Sherrill is of an age where he might be William Sherrill’s father, but it appears from both his and his wife Margaret’s estates, that there were no children. No document has yet been found connecting this Samuel Sherrill with William Sherrill the Fur Trader.

Why William Sherrill the Fur Trader’s wife is not Margaret, Rudisil or Reutzel.
The bottom line on William Sherrill’s wife is that she is not mentioned in any record found thus far. That William did have children he claimed as his own and met the requirements to be considered “English” therefore qualifying for land ownership and taxation, can be found in Maryland and Pennsylvania land records where he deeded parcels to his sons Adam and William Jr. The much litigated Margery Sherrill is listed as William Jr’s sister in court records. Mary Sherrill’s daughter is given as the granddaughter of William Sheerwill, servant, in the parish registers. But there is no evidence of marriages or wives for William, though obviously there was at least one. So for the time being, his wife must be called by that ubiquitous and meaningless name, Mrs. William Sherrill.
To understand why neither the forename Margaret nor the surname Rudicil or Reutzel can belong to her [except coincidentally and outside the following parameters], consider the source of those names.
First, the Long Island Samuel Sherrill’s wife, first name unknown by the editor, Reynolds, of the entry above, has often been given as Margaret Parsons. When Sherrill researchers were compelled to remove “Shipwreck” Samuel Sherrill from their pedigree charts as William’s father for lack of evidence, they might have forgotten to also remove Samuel Sherrill’s wife as his mother. Hence the name Margaret Parsons stayed on some records even though she almost certainly never met the William Sherrill she was supposed to have birthed.
Second, there is a Margaret Therrell/Sherrell/Thurrold, who left a will mentioning daughters and a grandson, nothing concerning a son William, yet her name comes up as a possible mother to William. See Clark, Wanda L. The Sherrill Saga. Photocopy of rough draft in possession of LaRae Free Kerr, p/s 27. McAlester, OK. 1 Jan 1987. Pp 8, 18-22.
Third, William Sherrill Jr’s wife’s name was listed as Margaret in various deeds. He was not always, nor even often called Jr in the land records, and it is difficult to tell which William Sherrill is which. However, deeds make it clear that the wife of William Sherrill, the son of William Sherrill the Indian trader, was named Margaret.
Fourth, someone once read the name Samuel as Rudil in one or more early documents – old cursive is often confusing, and then someone assumed it was his mother’s surname; hence Rudisil. As near as I can tell, the supposition about Rudil began in 1957. However, the Rudicel family claims no one by that surname was in the Americas early enough to be William Sherrill’s wife. In other words, and I really hate to say this, but someone made Margaret Rudicell up. She did not exist.
Fifth, the William Sherrill 1702 deed transferring land from William Price to William Sherrill contains information about Margaret, but it is Margaret Price that is named, not Margaret Sherrill.
And finally, William Sherrill’s known daughters are Mary and Margery, a shortening of Margaret. Surely one of those daughters would be named for their mother? Perhaps. But in the old Scotch-Irish naming pattern, the first daughter would be named for the mother’s mother, and the second for the father’s mother. So it is more likely that their mother’s mother was named Mary, and their father’s mother was named Margery; the latter turns out to be true.
Some have claimed a Margaretha Reutzel, daughter of Elias, as his wife. However, the original researchers for the family of Elias do not list a daughter named Margaret or any of its variations. All of the children of this family have complete birth [chr?] dates from church records [?] in Wolferborn, Germany, except the oldest child, Margaretha,. She has been plunked in with only a birth year and the place as Cecil, MD. Further, the ship that brought them is supposed to be the US Butler. The US didn’t even exist at that time. The only source is oneworldtree at ancestry. Of course, oneworldtree is not a source. After checking this family, I am convinced Margaretha Reutzel is another person who never did exist.
The earliest Rudisil I noticed as I worked on this information was: A Philip Rudisili appears in Anson Co NC in a 28 Jun 1756 deed. Clark, Saga, p 64. Thank you, dear Wanda Clark, for your hard work.
Two great Sherrill researchers have independently discounted both Samuel Sherrill and Margaret Rudisil [by any spelling] as William Sherrill’s parents as shown by this quote: “This Ermington Parish family is the strongest candidate so far for our William, the conestoga fur traders line. Bill Sherrill of Arizona had discounted Samuel Sherrill whom he called ‘Sinking Sam’ as our ancestor & in his book on Jacob which he put out just before he died he removed Margaret Rudisil as William’s wife…Note that I show no wife’s name [for the fur trader] & show only 4 children as proven William Jr, Adam Sr; Margeret Perkins; & Mary Perkins – and while I list Wm Sherwell & Margery Upright as his parents I show this as “not proven” Clark, Wanda. Letter to Helen VanderBeek dated 13 Sep 1991 from McAlester, OK. In p/s 27, handwritten, tan lined paper.
Why William Sherrill’s wife is not Mary Egford/Higford [or sometimes given as Gregory].
The William Sherrill/Mary Egford marriage took place 11 May 1693 in Exeter, Devon, England. When William Sherrill the Fur Trader married about 1692, he would have just completed working off a prison sentence plus, perhaps, a transportation fee [see book text for explanations]. It is almost impossible to conceive that he might return back to England to get a wife in view of his disgrace as a prisoner, his lack of funds, as well as the fact that Exeter is some little distance from Ermington/Modbury. Further, as shown elsewhere, his wife’s name is not given in any known new world document.
Why Rudil Sherrill is not William Sherrill’s son.
The name Rudil was a misreading of Samuel in one of the old records. There never was a Rudil; he couldn’t be anyone’s son because he did not exist.
Wanda Clark wrote on page 8 of her Sherrill Saga: "Adam, Rudil and Samuel join William Sherrill in Lancaster County tax records in 1720." Her hand-written note in the margin states: "read original microfilm - this appears to be a mis-reading of Samuel." This is the complete quote.

Why Samuel may be William Sherrill’s son.
A Samuel, much younger than the one listed above, may be William’s son just because he is in the same tax lists in Conestoga Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania with William, William [Jr] and Adam from about 1719-1721. Samuel is NOT listed in known William Sherrill deeds as a son or anything else. He does pay a considerably bigger tax than William, William Jr or Adam. He might be an “orphan” Sherrill. Because surnames are just not that unique, quite often someone with the same or a similar surname will appear in the middle of a conclave of the same name.
However, he did seem to disappear from Conestoga Township about the time William and Adam did, while someone of that name appeared in North Carolina, not necessarily with members of this family. Some good hard research needed here. See below.

Why the Lancaster County, PA Samuel Sherrill may not be William Sherrill’s son.
Two entries in the Lancaster County, Conestoga Township, PA tax list show a Samuel Sherrill: 1719-1720 he is found [at one time transcribed as Rudil, but the name is Samuel; there is no Rudil] assessed 30 pounds while William is assessed 20 pounds and Adam and William [Jr] are both assessed 12 pounds. Samuel and William both appear in the 1721 tax list. This Samuel would almost certainly be born by or before 1698. These are the only two entries for him. He does not appear, apparently, in any land or court record with William Sr, William Jr or Adam anyplace including VA and NC.
The problem with this tax list is that it is alphabetized, by the original tax taker or by later transcribers is unknown. Hence, we later researchers cannot tell if Samuel’s property was near that of William, William and Adam or not. And that unknown proximity is all we have from which to ascertain a relationship. This Samuel does not appear in later records in VA or NC with this Sherrill family. Therefore, he should not be added as a child of William Sherrill at this time for lack of evidence.
Please note that the first documented Samuel Sherrill in the family is the son of Adam Sherrill. Gray, William grandson of William and Sarah Sherrill Gray copied these entries in 1860., Old Sherrill Bible., Mrs Richard W Harris Rt 3 Oxford, NC donated these papers as part of the Allen/Laney Papers. Paine to H V/B 24 Jan 1979., copy in poss LaRae Free Kerr, 2969 East Somerset Drive, Spanish Fork, UT 84660.

Why is Ute/Uriah/Yont Sherrill listed as a child of William Sherrill, the Indian trader?
The short answer is there is no Ute/Uriah b 1705, but the man of that name born 1728 is the son of Adam Sherrill. Adam’s son Uriah was born 1 Mar 1728 and fits all known deeds. Further he is listed in the Sherrill Family Bible records as Adam’s son.
After reviewing the literature about William Sherrill as well as newly noticed records, I have yet to find him even in the same place as a Ute/Uriah/Yont Sherrill. William Sherrill does have a grandson named Uriah b 1728, a son of Adam [some claim this Uriah is the son of Samuel]; plus a great grandson named Uriah b 1757, son of Jacob.

Why Avington/Abenton/Abraham Sherrill is not William Sherrill, the Fur Trader’s, son.
Avington is another story. He does not appear in Pennsylvania records with the William Sherrill family. He does appear on the Catawba River with the Sherrills in North Carolina, meaning that he would have been, most likely, 21 or older by 1748, thus born before 1727. It is most likely he is a grandson of William. See the following deed abstract for more about Avington.
“Anson County, North Carolina Deeds, Vol A.
Page 103: 1 May 1752, WILLIAM SHERRILL, to his son ABBENTON SHERRILL…cattle other half to son in law JAMES ROBINSON…WILLIAM SHERRILL [X] [SEAL]. Wit: JOHN WODSON, JOHN CLARK, JAMES HUTCHINS.” Abstract in Clark, Wanda, The Sherrill Saga, p 63.
Important identifiers in this deed show that Abenton must meet these requirements:
1. He was born before 1731 – would probably be 21 or older in 1752 or the deed’s language would have been different.
2. His father’s name was William Sherrill
3. William Sherrill was alive in 1752
4. Half of William Sherrill’s cattle went to his sister, via her husband James Robinson
5. There may not be other children in the family, since the cattle were divided into two herds only
6. William Sherrill lived in Anson Co NC in 1752

These criteria define the family of William Sherrill Jr thusly:
1. Avington Sherrill’s birth is estimated at about 1730 in Virginia.
2. His father’s name was William Sherrill [Jr]; his mother was, perhaps, Margaret Wilson [another Margaret!].
3. His father, William Sherrill, died 14 Jan 1774 in Sherrill’s Fort, GA; he was killed by Indians. So he was alive in 1752, thus able to bequeath his children these cattle.
4-5. There may have been only the two children or the cattle would have been divided into smaller groups. [There are also reasons why this may not be true, but looking at the most obvious circumstance first can be helpful.] The family record I have of William Sherrill Jr shows only three children: Avington [with a middle name of William?], Catherine and a David. I have no data nor sources whatsoever for David. Catherine was married to James Robinson. It is entirely possible that the name James Robinson originated with this deed since I do not have a marriage record for Catherine. This family is not one of my main research families but one I gather data on only. Nevertheless, much of what I collect is primary.
7. Even though this William Sherrill Jr was with his father and brother Adam in Md and PA, there are deeds for him in Anson Co NC 1750, 1750, 1752, 1752, 1757, 1762. He and other family members later went to GA for a time where he was killed. Clark. Saga. Pp 63-4.
8. Deeds for James Robinson and Avington Sherrill, and Avington’s wife Perhanna Sherrill can also be found in Anson Co NC. Clark, Saga, pp 63-4.
CONCLUSION: This Avington Sherrill is the son of William Sherrill, Jr.

Why David, Amanda and Reuben Sherrill are not William Sherrill the Fur Trader’s children.
There is no evidence, no source, nada. These names were taken from a website that is fraught with errors, and though source names are scattered throughout they don’t seem to bear any relationship to the information listed nearby.

Where did the other children come from?
Some family group records list as many as 11 children for William Sherrill, the Indian trader. I’ve looked hard for days without finding a single source that would make me add a name to the four known children given above. Further, I’ve seen no source of any kind for any of the other names. Where did they come from?
CONCLUSION: Only Mary, William Jr, Adam, and Margery should be listed as William Sherrill’s and Mrs. William Sherrill’s children. If future research warrants it, Samuel may eventually be included in the family.

So, as of June 2011, feel free to make the following changes to your William Sherrill the Fur Trader family group record.
1. Remove both Samuel Sherrill and any Margaret as his parents. The book will reveal those most likely to be his parents.
2. Remove Mary Egford/Higford/Gregory as his wife. Also remove any Margaret and any surname. Remember that Margaret Rudicil did not exist, at least as William Sherwill’s wife. So don’t even keep her in the database. The only name we have at this time is Mrs. William Sherrill [use any Sherrill spelling that works in your database.]
Margaretha Reutzel is another apparently made up name. This woman also does not appear to have existed.
3. Put the four known children in this order, if you choose to follow the traditional naming order: the first daughter will be Mary, named after her mother’s mother [whose name we don’t actually yet know and may never know]; the second daughter will be Margery, named after her father’s mother [this turns out to be true]; the first son will be named William after the father’s father [which is also true]; the second son will be named after the mother’s father. However, in this case, Mary is named after her great grandmother on her father’s side and Adam is named after his great grandfather on his father’s side. [Of course, it’s always possible Mary and Adam are indeed their mother’s parents’ names.] However, there is a reason the mother’s name was never used in any of the records: she died young; she was all or part Indian and could not legally be included; she was of another nationality whose names were difficult; she was not married to William Sherrill but a common law wife. Who knows?
The most likely answer is that she died young and therefore did not need to be named in the deeds and court records.
4. As I’ve done this analysis, it has become clear that Mary, William, Adam and Margery, who can all be documented as William Sherrill the Fur Trader’s children with court and land records were born in MD and/or PA. The other children attributed to him appear only in VA or NC records where he may never have gone. This analysis has made it clear that those erstwhile children belong in other families. William Sherrill the Fur Trader may have never left PA/MD but died there.
This leaves only Samuel who is in Lancaster Co PA for only 1719-1721 with William, William Jr and Adam. If someone would like to pursue this Samuel to see if he is indeed a William Sherrill child, I would applaud the action. But no other Sherrill meets the requirements to be William Sherrill’s offspring.
5. Move Avington to his proper position as the grandchild of William Sherrill and the son of William Sherrill Jr.
6. Delete David, Amanda and Reuben outright. They do not belong in this family if they even existed.
7. I find no document mentioning John Sherrill in the MD/PA area or the right time period. So delete him.
8. Match/merge Ute/Uriah/Yont Sherrill with the Uriah b 1728, son of Adam the pioneer or Uriah the son of Samuel the son of Adam the pioneer b 1757, depending on the event.
9. The Samuel Sherrill who has been assigned the birth date of 1709 had a brother Adam. So what other Sherrill family has sons named Samuel and Adam? That would be the family of Adam Sherrill and Elizabeth Biggen/Bigger or Corzine. The deed dates assigned to Samuel Sherrill b 1709 work even better for the Samuel Sherrill b 1725. So match/merge Samuel Sherrill whose birth is given as 1709 with Adam’s son Samuel b 1 Oct 1725. The Samuel Sherrill b 1709 never did exist. All his references were actually for those of 1725.
10. Now, as to the remaining Samuel: If you want to leave him in the William Sherwill family, I recommend putting him last and adding a question mark to the database, so that you are always reminded that he may not be William’s son.

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Windon S. Newton (1962- ) artist of colored pigment, pastel, oil, acrylic, watercolor works on paper has worked in Florida, Wisconsin, Germany, Paris and California. Newton partnered and signed work as ''Gessford & Newton Studios'' between 1984-2002 and his own name. In1993-94, Windon Newton and Gary Gessford both received the six-month artist/residency including a two-man art exhibition at the Otto Flath Museum in Bad Segeberg, Germany. Newton’s public commissions include works for Polk Museum of Art, Maitland Art Center, Kunsthalle Otto Flath, The Florida Trust for Historic Preservation, City of Lakeland FL, Rollins College, Florida Southern College, and as Wayland Academy's sequential artist. Newton partners with Michael Stevenson as an artist and art conservator under LA Art Box and Life as Colored Pigment.

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I am looking for information about William Starrett, born Apri 15, 1694 in Scotland. He married Mary Gamble in Ireland 1724. They immigrated to the U.S I find here on ancestry.com that his father was William Stewart born March 4, 1655 in Scotland. I'm wondering why the change in surname? Starrett from Stewart?

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The truth about William Sherwill, the Conestoga Fur Trader, as of June 2011, at least until another document is found changing everything.

Copyright June 2011 LaRae Free Kerr M Ed

When I started this project, my family group record on William Sherrill the Fur Trader, gave his wife as Mary Egford/Higford with a question mark. His proven children were Mary, Margery, William Jr and Adam. Children with question marks were Avington, two Samuels born in different years, John, Ute/Uriah/Yont, David, Amanda and Reuben. Perusing available records left a streamlined, solid family as shown below.

After carefully reading this document, if you have any true sources that support, refute or enhance the following information, I would appreciate your sharing them with me. Please do not quote “family sources,” “ancestry.com’s familytree [unless there are real sources],” “new.familysearch.org [unless sources are attached]” or any other cut-and-paste resource, for they are not sources. But do share court and land records, family Bibles, diaries, letters, etc. To follow our discoveries about the Sherrills, Perkins and Frees, please follow the blog at www.alfreefamily.blogspot.com. You may email me at itsallrelatives@sfcn.org.
Also, please, do not commit plagiarism by cutting and pasting this document into other sites, especially in pieces that leave out supporting data. When quoting this document, give complete sourcing: Kerr, LaRae Free. “The truth about William Sherwill, the Conestoga Fur Trader, as of June 2011, at least until another document is found changing everything.” www.alfreefamilyblogspot.com. 20 Jun 2011. 2027l
Further, I reserve the right to modify anything and everything in this document as you send me new information, and as Jill and I find new information. Look for the book: the working title is American Ancestors and Descendants of Mary Pennington and Andrew Free.

Names are funny things. No matter how unusual the name you are searching may be, there will be other people with the same or similar names in the same or similar time periods and places. Remember, too, please, that all spelling must be done phonetically. The surname Sherrill has been found in varying documents as well as sometimes in the same documents spelled in these and other ways: Sherrill /Shirwell/Sherrel/Sherwill/Shearwell/Sherel/Sherett/Cheril/Sherville/Sheral/Shurl/
Cherral/Sarill/Sherrerd, pronounced Sherry in parts of England
Documents are funny things, too. Thousands of records are destroyed each year, yet many make it through the natural disasters, the mice and rats, the burned house or courthouse, the trips to the dump, and end up in a library or on a microfilm or book or even onto the Internet.
Consequently, the appearance of just one record can change all that a family believed about their family heretofore. Such is the case with the William Sherrill pedigree. Please remember these three things as you peruse the following much abbreviated information: no name is unique; names must be read phonetically; and with the advent of digital technology, “lost” or at least previously unfound, ancient records are coming to light.

Why Long Island, New York’s Samuel Sherrill [identified as Shipwreck Sam] is not William Sherrill, the Conestoga Fur Trader’s, father.
A better question than this is: Why did anyone think Samuel Sherrill was William Sherrill’s father in the first place?
It was because of proximity. Those wonderful early researchers who gave us such great genealogical heritages had very few records to work with, so their modus operandi was to look around for the closest person with the same or similar last name. Still works today, but it must be accompanied by records, and it must fit known dates.
In addition, consider that genealogy rule that if you can’t prove a relationship, attempt to disprove it. The wills of Samuel Sherrill of Long Island and his wife disproved any connection to William.
Neither Samuel Sherrill’s will nor that of his wife mentioned a son named William Sherrill. In fact, the only son mentioned is Recompence. There were some daughters.
Sometimes sons are not mentioned in probates because they have already received their inheritances or are cut off. My Perkins line has examples of both. Still there are other records connecting the father and son. In the case of Samuel and William there are no connecting records found thus far, not one. Further, William lived in Maryland and just across the border into Pennsylvania while Samuel lived in Long Island, New York.
In Hudson-Mohawk Genealogical and Family Memoirs, Vol III, edited by Cuyler Reynolds and published in 1911, in an article titled “The Sherrill Line,” p 1065, it says “Recompence, only son of Samuel and ______(Parsons) Sherrill, was born in Easthampton, Long Island, about 1678 [underlining is my own].” So for at least one hundred years, Sherrill researchers have known Samuel was NOT William’s father.
Wanda Clark, in her Sherrill Saga,p 17 in my version, says, “There is no doubt that William Sherrill, the Conestoga fur trader pre-dated the Long Island Samuel Sherrill.” Therefore, Samuel Sherrill could not be Willilam’s father just simply because he was too young to be.
Further, there were other Sherrills in the Americas: Samuel Shewell, Samuel Share, John Sherle, Thomas Shirle, Thomas Sherwill, William Sherrill/Sheriff who immigrated in 1659, for example, from Virginia to New Hampshire to list just a few. See Clark, Wanda L. The Sherrill Saga. Photocopy of rough draft in possession of LaRae Free Kerr, p/s 27. McAlester, OK. 1 Jan 1987. p 26. and Shoemaker, Jill. June Research, email 17 June 2011 10:48 pm. See also Sherrill immigrants/emigrants on Ancestry.com
A new-found record seems to indicate William Sherrill, the Fur Trader, was the emigrant and is not the son of any colonial Sherrill by any spelling or domicile.

Why neither Maryland Samuel Sherrill is the Fur Trader’s father.
If proximity sent early researchers into Long Island, New York in search of William Sherrill’s parents, it sent some researchers even closer to William’s domicile when a Samuel Sherrill was found in Maryland itself. One of William Andrew Sherrill’s thousands of Sherrill note cards said: “Samuel Sherrill d. Charles County, Md 1676. B. England 1635. Married an Ashbrook. Supposed to be the father of William Sherrill. B. Charles County, Maryland, 1675.” Clark. Saga. P 36 Please note there is NO source for this information and neither of those great Sherrill researchers, William Andrew Sherrill or Wanda L Clark credit it, though in his thoroughness, Bill recorded it. The source for the death year is shown below.
Nor is there any known document connecting William Sherrill to this Samuel Sherrill of Charles County, Maryland. Records indicate this Samuel Sherrill was in Charles County, MD in 1663. Deed records then jump to 1674-1677 when this Samuel was dead. But none of these deeds, nor the estate appraisement seem to mention wife or children. Clark, Saga pp 23-25. See notes below:
Samuel Sherrill
1670 9 Aug. Samuel Serrell of Charles Co also Samuel Serell of Petuxent River in Calvert Co MD was pd 1000 lbs tobacco to cut and mail 14 foot logs.
1673. Samuell Sherrell sells Ashbrooks Rest to John Boyden
1674, 6 Nov. Samuell Sherrell of Charles Co MD? Swears about William Lewis
1676 24 Jul. Benjamin Roger (Roser?) adm his estate. Samuel Sherrill is of Charles, MD.
1678 13 Apr Robert Benjar of Baltimore Co MD administers Margaret's estate.
Why would these non-related people administer the estates of Samuel and Margaret, his wife, if they had living children? Especially since William Sherrill, the Fur Trader, was nearby? Kerr, LaRae Free. Notes and Timeline. Personal Ancestral File under Samuel Sherrill d 1676 Md.
Still another Samuel Shewell/Showell can be found in Maryland records, in Somerset County. This one’s wife was Mary; his children were Johnathan, Mary and Charles, and his will was drawn 18 Apr 1695 and proved 13 Oct 1698 through 18 Jul 1713. Clark, Saga. P 38. No known record connects this man to William Sherrill, the Fur Trader.
CONCLUSION: No records connect William Sherrill the fur trader to any Samuel Sherrill. Both the Long Island, NY Samuel Sherrill and the Somerset County, MD Samuel Sherrill were too young to be William’s father. The Charles County, MD Samuel Sherrill is of an age where he might be William Sherrill’s father, but it appears from both his and his wife Margaret’s estates, that there were no children. No document has yet been found connecting this Samuel Sherrill with William Sherrill the Fur Trader.

Why William Sherrill the Fur Trader’s wife is not Margaret, Rudisil or Reutzel.
The bottom line on William Sherrill’s wife is that she is not mentioned in any record found thus far. That William did have children he claimed as his own and met the requirements to be considered “English” therefore qualifying for land ownership and taxation, can be found in Maryland and Pennsylvania land records where he deeded parcels to his sons Adam and William Jr. The much litigated Margery Sherrill is listed as William Jr’s sister in court records. Mary Sherrill’s daughter is given as the granddaughter of William Sheerwill, servant, in the parish registers. But there is no evidence of marriages or wives for William, though obviously there was at least one. So for the time being, his wife must be called by that ubiquitous and meaningless name, Mrs. William Sherrill.
To understand why neither the forename Margaret nor the surname Rudicil or Reutzel can belong to her [except coincidentally and outside the following parameters], consider the source of those names.
First, the Long Island Samuel Sherrill’s wife, first name unknown by the editor, Reynolds, of the entry above, has often been given as Margaret Parsons. When Sherrill researchers were compelled to remove “Shipwreck” Samuel Sherrill from their pedigree charts as William’s father for lack of evidence, they might have forgotten to also remove Samuel Sherrill’s wife as his mother. Hence the name Margaret Parsons stayed on some records even though she almost certainly never met the William Sherrill she was supposed to have birthed.
Second, there is a Margaret Therrell/Sherrell/Thurrold, who left a will mentioning daughters and a grandson, nothing concerning a son William, yet her name comes up as a possible mother to William. See Clark, Wanda L. The Sherrill Saga. Photocopy of rough draft in possession of LaRae Free Kerr, p/s 27. McAlester, OK. 1 Jan 1987. Pp 8, 18-22.
Third, William Sherrill Jr’s wife’s name was listed as Margaret in various deeds. He was not always, nor even often called Jr in the land records, and it is difficult to tell which William Sherrill is which. However, deeds make it clear that the wife of William Sherrill, the son of William Sherrill the Indian trader, was named Margaret.
Fourth, someone once read the name Samuel as Rudil in one or more early documents – old cursive is often confusing, and then someone assumed it was his mother’s surname; hence Rudisil. As near as I can tell, the supposition about Rudil began in 1957. However, the Rudicel family claims no one by that surname was in the Americas early enough to be William Sherrill’s wife. In other words, and I really hate to say this, but someone made Margaret Rudicell up. She did not exist.
Fifth, the William Sherrill 1702 deed transferring land from William Price to William Sherrill contains information about Margaret, but it is Margaret Price that is named, not Margaret Sherrill.
And finally, William Sherrill’s known daughters are Mary and Margery, a shortening of Margaret. Surely one of those daughters would be named for their mother? Perhaps. But in the old Scotch-Irish naming pattern, the first daughter would be named for the mother’s mother, and the second for the father’s mother. So it is more likely that their mother’s mother was named Mary, and their father’s mother was named Margery; the latter turns out to be true.
Some have claimed a Margaretha Reutzel, daughter of Elias, as his wife. However, the original researchers for the family of Elias do not list a daughter named Margaret or any of its variations. All of the children of this family have complete birth [chr?] dates from church records [?] in Wolferborn, Germany, except the oldest child, Margaretha,. She has been plunked in with only a birth year and the place as Cecil, MD. Further, the ship that brought them is supposed to be the US Butler. The US didn’t even exist at that time. The only source is oneworldtree at ancestry. Of course, oneworldtree is not a source. After checking this family, I am convinced Margaretha Reutzel is another person who never did exist.
The earliest Rudisil I noticed as I worked on this information was: A Philip Rudisili appears in Anson Co NC in a 28 Jun 1756 deed. Clark, Saga, p 64. Thank you, dear Wanda Clark, for your hard work.
Two great Sherrill researchers have independently discounted both Samuel Sherrill and Margaret Rudisil [by any spelling] as William Sherrill’s parents as shown by this quote: “This Ermington Parish family is the strongest candidate so far for our William, the conestoga fur traders line. Bill Sherrill of Arizona had discounted Samuel Sherrill whom he called ‘Sinking Sam’ as our ancestor & in his book on Jacob which he put out just before he died he removed Margaret Rudisil as William’s wife…Note that I show no wife’s name [for the fur trader] & show only 4 children as proven William Jr, Adam Sr; Margeret Perkins; & Mary Perkins – and while I list Wm Sherwell & Margery Upright as his parents I show this as “not proven” Clark, Wanda. Letter to Helen VanderBeek dated 13 Sep 1991 from McAlester, OK. In p/s 27, handwritten, tan lined paper.
Why William Sherrill’s wife is not Mary Egford/Higford [or sometimes given as Gregory].
The William Sherrill/Mary Egford marriage took place 11 May 1693 in Exeter, Devon, England. When William Sherrill the Fur Trader married about 1692, he would have just completed working off a prison sentence plus, perhaps, a transportation fee [see book text for explanations]. It is almost impossible to conceive that he might return back to England to get a wife in view of his disgrace as a prisoner, his lack of funds, as well as the fact that Exeter is some little distance from Ermington/Modbury. Further, as shown elsewhere, his wife’s name is not given in any known new world document.
Why Rudil Sherrill is not William Sherrill’s son.
The name Rudil was a misreading of Samuel in one of the old records. There never was a Rudil; he couldn’t be anyone’s son because he did not exist.
Wanda Clark wrote on page 8 of her Sherrill Saga: "Adam, Rudil and Samuel join William Sherrill in Lancaster County tax records in 1720." Her hand-written note in the margin states: "read original microfilm - this appears to be a mis-reading of Samuel." This is the complete quote.

Why Samuel may be William Sherrill’s son.
A Samuel, much younger than the one listed above, may be William’s son just because he is in the same tax lists in Conestoga Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania with William, William [Jr] and Adam from about 1719-1721. Samuel is NOT listed in known William Sherrill deeds as a son or anything else. He does pay a considerably bigger tax than William, William Jr or Adam. He might be an “orphan” Sherrill. Because surnames are just not that unique, quite often someone with the same or a similar surname will appear in the middle of a conclave of the same name.
However, he did seem to disappear from Conestoga Township about the time William and Adam did, while someone of that name appeared in North Carolina, not necessarily with members of this family. Some good hard research needed here. See below.

Why the Lancaster County, PA Samuel Sherrill may not be William Sherrill’s son.
Two entries in the Lancaster County, Conestoga Township, PA tax list show a Samuel Sherrill: 1719-1720 he is found [at one time transcribed as Rudil, but the name is Samuel; there is no Rudil] assessed 30 pounds while William is assessed 20 pounds and Adam and William [Jr] are both assessed 12 pounds. Samuel and William both appear in the 1721 tax list. This Samuel would almost certainly be born by or before 1698. These are the only two entries for him. He does not appear, apparently, in any land or court record with William Sr, William Jr or Adam anyplace including VA and NC.
The problem with this tax list is that it is alphabetized, by the original tax taker or by later transcribers is unknown. Hence, we later researchers cannot tell if Samuel’s property was near that of William, William and Adam or not. And that unknown proximity is all we have from which to ascertain a relationship. This Samuel does not appear in later records in VA or NC with this Sherrill family. Therefore, he should not be added as a child of William Sherrill at this time for lack of evidence.
Please note that the first documented Samuel Sherrill in the family is the son of Adam Sherrill. Gray, William grandson of William and Sarah Sherrill Gray copied these entries in 1860., Old Sherrill Bible., Mrs Richard W Harris Rt 3 Oxford, NC donated these papers as part of the Allen/Laney Papers. Paine to H V/B 24 Jan 1979., copy in poss LaRae Free Kerr, 2969 East Somerset Drive, Spanish Fork, UT 84660.

Why is Ute/Uriah/Yont Sherrill listed as a child of William Sherrill, the Indian trader?
The short answer is there is no Ute/Uriah b 1705, but the man of that name born 1728 is the son of Adam Sherrill. Adam’s son Uriah was born 1 Mar 1728 and fits all known deeds. Further he is listed in the Sherrill Family Bible records as Adam’s son.
After reviewing the literature about William Sherrill as well as newly noticed records, I have yet to find him even in the same place as a Ute/Uriah/Yont Sherrill. William Sherrill does have a grandson named Uriah b 1728, a son of Adam [some claim this Uriah is the son of Samuel]; plus a great grandson named Uriah b 1757, son of Jacob.

Why Avington/Abenton/Abraham Sherrill is not William Sherrill, the Fur Trader’s, son.
Avington is another story. He does not appear in Pennsylvania records with the William Sherrill family. He does appear on the Catawba River with the Sherrills in North Carolina, meaning that he would have been, most likely, 21 or older by 1748, thus born before 1727. It is most likely he is a grandson of William. See the following deed abstract for more about Avington.
“Anson County, North Carolina Deeds, Vol A.
Page 103: 1 May 1752, WILLIAM SHERRILL, to his son ABBENTON SHERRILL…cattle other half to son in law JAMES ROBINSON…WILLIAM SHERRILL [X] [SEAL]. Wit: JOHN WODSON, JOHN CLARK, JAMES HUTCHINS.” Abstract in Clark, Wanda, The Sherrill Saga, p 63.
Important identifiers in this deed show that Abenton must meet these requirements:
1. He was born before 1731 – would probably be 21 or older in 1752 or the deed’s language would have been different.
2. His father’s name was William Sherrill
3. William Sherrill was alive in 1752
4. Half of William Sherrill’s cattle went to his sister, via her husband James Robinson
5. There may not be other children in the family, since the cattle were divided into two herds only
6. William Sherrill lived in Anson Co NC in 1752

These criteria define the family of William Sherrill Jr thusly:
1. Avington Sherrill’s birth is estimated at about 1730 in Virginia.
2. His father’s name was William Sherrill [Jr]; his mother was, perhaps, Margaret Wilson [another Margaret!].
3. His father, William Sherrill, died 14 Jan 1774 in Sherrill’s Fort, GA; he was killed by Indians. So he was alive in 1752, thus able to bequeath his children these cattle.
4-5. There may have been only the two children or the cattle would have been divided into smaller groups. [There are also reasons why this may not be true, but looking at the most obvious circumstance first can be helpful.] The family record I have of William Sherrill Jr shows only three children: Avington [with a middle name of William?], Catherine and a David. I have no data nor sources whatsoever for David. Catherine was married to James Robinson. It is entirely possible that the name James Robinson originated with this deed since I do not have a marriage record for Catherine. This family is not one of my main research families but one I gather data on only. Nevertheless, much of what I collect is primary.
7. Even though this William Sherrill Jr was with his father and brother Adam in Md and PA, there are deeds for him in Anson Co NC 1750, 1750, 1752, 1752, 1757, 1762. He and other family members later went to GA for a time where he was killed. Clark. Saga. Pp 63-4.
8. Deeds for James Robinson and Avington Sherrill, and Avington’s wife Perhanna Sherrill can also be found in Anson Co NC. Clark, Saga, pp 63-4.
CONCLUSION: This Avington Sherrill is the son of William Sherrill, Jr.

Why David, Amanda and Reuben Sherrill are not William Sherrill the Fur Trader’s children.
There is no evidence, no source, nada. These names were taken from a website that is fraught with errors, and though source names are scattered throughout they don’t seem to bear any relationship to the information listed nearby.

Where did the other children come from?
Some family group records list as many as 11 children for William Sherrill, the Indian trader. I’ve looked hard for days without finding a single source that would make me add a name to the four known children given above. Further, I’ve seen no source of any kind for any of the other names. Where did they come from?
CONCLUSION: Only Mary, William Jr, Adam, and Margery should be listed as William Sherrill’s and Mrs. William Sherrill’s children. If future research warrants it, Samuel may eventually be included in the family.

So, as of June 2011, feel free to make the following changes to your William Sherrill the Fur Trader family group record.
1. Remove both Samuel Sherrill and any Margaret as his parents. The book will reveal those most likely to be his parents.
2. Remove Mary Egford/Higford/Gregory as his wife. Also remove any Margaret and any surname. Remember that Margaret Rudicil did not exist, at least as William Sherwill’s wife. So don’t even keep her in the database. The only name we have at this time is Mrs. William Sherrill [use any Sherrill spelling that works in your database.]
Margaretha Reutzel is another apparently made up name. This woman also does not appear to have existed.
3. Put the four known children in this order, if you choose to follow the traditional naming order: the first daughter will be Mary, named after her mother’s mother [whose name we don’t actually yet know and may never know]; the second daughter will be Margery, named after her father’s mother [this turns out to be true]; the first son will be named William after the father’s father [which is also true]; the second son will be named after the mother’s father. However, in this case, Mary is named after her great grandmother on her father’s side and Adam is named after his great grandfather on his father’s side. [Of course, it’s always possible Mary and Adam are indeed their mother’s parents’ names.] However, there is a reason the mother’s name was never used in any of the records: she died young; she was all or part Indian and could not legally be included; she was of another nationality whose names were difficult; she was not married to William Sherrill but a common law wife. Who knows?
The most likely answer is that she died young and therefore did not need to be named in the deeds and court records.
4. As I’ve done this analysis, it has become clear that Mary, William, Adam and Margery, who can all be documented as William Sherrill the Fur Trader’s children with court and land records were born in MD and/or PA. The other children attributed to him appear only in VA or NC records where he may never have gone. This analysis has made it clear that those erstwhile children belong in other families. William Sherrill the Fur Trader may have never left PA/MD but died there.
This leaves only Samuel who is in Lancaster Co PA for only 1719-1721 with William, William Jr and Adam. If someone would like to pursue this Samuel to see if he is indeed a William Sherrill child, I would applaud the action. But no other Sherrill meets the requirements to be William Sherrill’s offspring.
5. Move Avington to his proper position as the grandchild of William Sherrill and the son of William Sherrill Jr.
6. Delete David, Amanda and Reuben outright. They do not belong in this family if they even existed.
7. I find no document mentioning John Sherrill in the MD/PA area or the right time period. So delete him.
8. Match/merge Ute/Uriah/Yont Sherrill with the Uriah b 1728, son of Adam the pioneer or Uriah the son of Samuel the son of Adam the pioneer b 1757, depending on the event.
9. The Samuel Sherrill who has been assigned the birth date of 1709 had a brother Adam. So what other Sherrill family has sons named Samuel and Adam? That would be the family of Adam Sherrill and Elizabeth Biggen/Bigger or Corzine. The deed dates assigned to Samuel Sherrill b 1709 work even better for the Samuel Sherrill b 1725. So match/merge Samuel Sherrill whose birth is given as 1709 with Adam’s son Samuel b 1 Oct 1725. The Samuel Sherrill b 1709 never did exist. All his references were actually for those of 1725.
10. Now, as to the remaining Samuel: If you want to leave him in the William Sherwill family, I recommend putting him last and adding a question mark to the database, so that you are always reminded that he may not be William’s son.

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